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Self-driving car on Moscow streets after snowfall [video]

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Re: Self-driving car on Moscow streets after snowfall [video]

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If that is after a heavy snowfall they need to test in Canada.

Maybe it's also after cleaning streets right after heavy snowfall? :)

For snow-covered roads we'll have to wait for reports from, say, Chelyabinsk. Or Tomsk, or Novosibirsk...

Re: Self-driving car on Moscow streets after snowfall [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canadian perspective: This is very clear. Much more challenging is something like a multi-lane highway where the road markings have completely disappeared under snow. I'll be impressed when it can drive from Hope into the BC interior in winter in conditions that a human driver can handle with winter tires and possibly studs, but no need for chains. https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=coq...

Oh man I've driven through canada to blue mountain during a blizzard. That was scary. I really have to wonder how computer vision will account for that. Or similarly torrential downpours here in the Tropics.

I don't think CV ever will account for that. I always have thought the answer is going to be somewhere between great technology, and infrastructure to support it. We need "smart" roads.

Re: Self-driving car on Moscow streets after snowfall [video]

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I'd love for it to be true, but it's tough to believe that's real. There's one point where a pedestrian is standing in the snow on the road just to the side of where the car would pass: https://youtu.be/Bx08yRsR9ow?t=35s Wouldn't any pedestrian detection decide the person in the road has priority and stop and let them cross? It isn't capable of reading a person's intention to stand there vs. cross or not. The title c…

I thought 1:50 was a lot more concerning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx08yRsR9ow&feature=youtu.be...

That pedestrian is already in the street and they momentarily stutter then pass the pedestrian with very little room.

That and the way the steering seems super sensitive to various snow remainders on the side of the street. It's almost as if it's controlling for its position relative to the snow instead of picking a mostly straight trajectory.

Re: Self-driving car on Moscow streets after snowfall [video]

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I'd love for it to be true, but it's tough to believe that's real. There's one point where a pedestrian is standing in the snow on the road just to the side of where the car would pass: https://youtu.be/Bx08yRsR9ow?t=35s Wouldn't any pedestrian detection decide the person in the road has priority and stop and let them cross? It isn't capable of reading a person's intention to stand there vs. cross or not. The title c…

From what I can tell it looks like the pedestrian’s vector is heading away from the car (right to left) for a few frames before he pauses. Couldn’t a level 5 model infer intentionality in a direction based on the way the pedestrian was walking?

That is the kind of premature optimization humans make that ends up with crashes. It's automated, there is no fatigue, there is no irrational feeling of losing time or being rushed or pressured by drivers behind over what would be a few seconds safely stopped and of no consequence to the overall travel time.

Re: Self-driving car on Moscow streets after snowfall [video]

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If anyone was going to focus on making sure their self-driving car could drive in snow, it'd be the Russians. Mind you, self-driving when snow has coated all your landmarks is definitely impressive, but the title made me think it'd be driving in snow . Which it isn't. The roads are, what we'd call in Chicago, "clear". The car is not driving in/on snow or ice in this scenario, which is something I do regularly every w…

Rochester NY is probably the best place in the world for actual snow driving. Daily snowfall during the winter due to lake-effect snow. It's where I trained to drive a rear-wheel drive Camaro. Very useful place.
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