The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
theatlantic.com
The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
1–10 of 198 posts
Re: The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
#2Equality of opportunity does not necessarily imply equality of outcome. This isn't a paradox. Why are still people still confused about this?
(Actually, people aren't confused about this, but it makes for great clickbait articles and ad revenue because it fans the flames of both sides of the argument.)
Re: The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
#3This article cites the same research that was discussed on HN a while ago as its basis: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16407678
Re: The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
#4It’s almost like... men and women are different.
Re: The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
#5It’s almost like... men and women are different.
careful. you can get fired for that
Re: The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
#6Equality of opportunity does not necessarily imply equality of outcome . This isn't a paradox. Why are still people still confused about this? (Actually, people aren't confused about this, but it makes for great clickbait articles and ad revenue because it fans the flames of both sides of the argument.)
I'm not sure I'd say the headline is clickbait. It's describing a correlation from a new paper. Seems pretty non opinionated to me.
There's a couple places within the article that's more superficial though.
Re: The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
#7'The gap in reading “is related at least in part to girls’ advantages in basic language abilities and a generally greater interest in reading; they read more and thus practice more,” Geary told me.'
I'm sorry, I couldn't read past this bit. I know men who are good readers so this can't be true. I'm going to wilfully pretend I don't understand probability distributions. I need this person to be fired immediately. Someone contact Google HR.
Re: The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
#8It’s almost like... men and women are different.
The article addresses that idea.
> The findings will likely seem controversial, since the idea that men and women have different inherent abilities is often used as a reason...to argue we should forget trying to recruit more women into the stem fields. But...that’s not quite what’s happening here. > In wealthy nations, [women] believe that they have the freedom to pursue [other] alternatives and not worry so much that they pay less.
The research does not seem to find that it is gender aptitude or interest differences that accounts for the disparity in STEM graduates.
> ...the percentage of girls who did excel in science or math was still larger than the number of women who were graduating with stem degrees. That means there’s something in even the most liberal societies that’s nudging women away from math and science, even when those are their best subjects.
Re: The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
#9I just discovered that where i work (Algeria) there is hidden rule in hiring new devs that wasn't known publicly it's simply no women, seriously i work with 20 men for more than two years and i just discovered that our head of recruitment doesn't hire woman at all no matter how she's talented because of so many reason most of them are racist but kind are hard to argue with him like if woman get married she will stop working and yes like 70% of this happened all time when women get married her husband will force her to stop working, even if she doesn't when she have kids she start working less hours i mean like 50% less
and the big reason that they can't handle pressure at all specifically if production server is down she simply get cracked down and where i live woman never work full time never that is like freaking problem and they never work for additional hours (despite we pay for those hours). so if he invest in woman she's going to get him like 30% productivity of men.
Re: The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM
#10I would take the whole equality movement more seriously if I had been able, in the past decade, to spot a negative news article / report on women.
When you get all the time exclusively negative news about men, you could start thinking that this is a coordinated (or emergent?) campaign.