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So you will crush a roach or swat a fly? I am all for humane chicken faming methods, et.al. However we are the top of the food chain and we eat everything below. That means it dies. My friends dogs will try to eat his chickens and it is not pretty (he trains the dogs not to of course.) I have a forest full of dear behind my house. I heard the very loud screaming of an animal the other day. One of the deer was lunch f…
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Ok, that person couldn't live and be healthy without meat, so the quote doesn't apply to them. Most people can. > I'm glad it works for you right now while providing a sense of moral superiority, but not everyone is the same. Come on.
> Most people can. Any sources? Most of the professionals seem to think otherwise.
I'm not arguing that it's healthier or you can live longer, just that most people can be healthy and live.
Do you have a source that most professionals believe that most people can't live and be healthy on a vegetarian diet?
Question: what is the maximum water temperature that a lobster can survive in? If that maximum is less than the boiling point of water, then another question: how carefully is the law drafted? If the law actually specifies boiling, is it just going to result in cooks bring the water to a boil, taking it off the heat, letting it drop to a little below the boiling point, and then inserting the lobster, where it still d…
>If the law actually specifies boiling, is it just going to result in cooks bring the water to a boil, taking it off the heat, letting it drop to a little below the boiling point, and then inserting the lobster, where it still dies but not as fast? Yeah, make stupid rules, play stupid games. This seems like a feel-good law. I wonder how enforcement will be.
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> (Myself, I'm kind of grossed out by shellfish). Ah, and I thought I was the only one. They look too damn similar to cockroaches!
There's a lot more similarity than just the looks. They're both arthropods.
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What liberty is being stripped here? The law should be considered for what it is, not a broad hypothetical generalisation of what it could be.
The burden should not be on the people to justify every one of their liberties. Should a gay couple need justify to the state the merit, moral dignity, or in any way their choice to live as gay people to the state? No. It should never be that way. But to legitimize illegitimite authority you just need to win over the hearts and minds of the people that what you are doing is good, by first doing things that are, in is…
It's at this point you'd probably want to go read David Foster Wallace's essay "Consider The Lobster", an assignment he took from (I shit you not) Gourmet Magazine, which begins with a sort of Illinois Country Fair style travelogue from the Maine Lobster Festival and "ends", if you can call the back 2/3rds of an essay "ending", in a discussion of the meaning of pain and its applicability to the specific nervous syste…
What is worse, causing pain or killing? If we consider an extreme case of someone going through a horrible torture, but the next day waking up as healthy as before, and without some kind of mental illness, and without losing significant amount of his time, or opportunity, would it be any different than a game? Would most people try such a game, where they play for someone getting executed in middle ages? My guess is…
Say what? So in Switzerland I can go to jail for not making a play date for my cat, or buying a little friend for my hamster?
What's next, you can't kill a spider that's creeping around your house?
People need to understand that there's always intended or unintended consquences for all laws. And laws like this have a tendency to make nasty precedents for other stupid-ass laws.
This is just more anthropomorphic emotional immaturity.
Let me get this straight. You’re saying that we should organize our societies along the lines of the lobsters?
We also benefit - by learning to treat animals better, we'll learn to treat each other better.
That means cats must have a daily visual contact with other felines, and hamsters or guinea pigs must be kept in pairs. And anyone who flushes a pet goldfish down the toilet is breaking the law. Say what? So in Switzerland I can go to jail for not making a play date for my cat, or buying a little friend for my hamster? What's next, you can't kill a spider that's creeping around your house? People need to understand t…
Who knows maybe one will even run for president one day.