> and Kunfermann said offenders could land in a lot of hot water Is there serious journalism being made anywhere these days? I feel like these subtle puns everywhere detract from the reading experience - not everything is for entertainment.
In Switzerland, it's now illegal to boil a live lobster
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#122Let me get this straight. You’re saying that we should organize our societies along the lines of the lobsters?
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#123> and Kunfermann said offenders could land in a lot of hot water Is there serious journalism being made anywhere these days? I feel like these subtle puns everywhere detract from the reading experience - not everything is for entertainment.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having to do with the fact that lobsters (according to Wallace) have decentralized nervous systems consisting of ganglia wired in series, so that slicing through one of them might not disable the creature's nociception upon being immersed in boiling water. You might just be keeping it from flailing around, paralyzed but still "aware" in whatever sense a lobster is aware of anything. Dave Arnold, another favorite writ…
> (Myself, I'm kind of grossed out by shellfish). Ah, and I thought I was the only one. They look too damn similar to cockroaches!
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having to do with the fact that lobsters (according to Wallace) have decentralized nervous systems consisting of ganglia wired in series, so that slicing through one of them might not disable the creature's nociception upon being immersed in boiling water. You might just be keeping it from flailing around, paralyzed but still "aware" in whatever sense a lobster is aware of anything. Dave Arnold, another favorite writ…
> (Myself, I'm kind of grossed out by shellfish). Ah, and I thought I was the only one. They look too damn similar to cockroaches!
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#126"...dipping it into salt water and then thrusting a knife into its brain." So for a few seconds it will think it's being released back into its natural habitat and then seconds later its brains are dripping down some chef's knife. The article talks about "animal dignity", but how is that giving them any form of dignity? They are still being killed unnaturally. NOTE: I'm not some animal rights person and I do eat meat…
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to this BBC article: "crustaceans have decentralised nervous systems, meaning that unlike fish, they can't be rendered unconscious with a single blow to the head. To "spike" a lobster to death, again unlike fish, you have to pierce the body in more than one spot." From: What's the kindest way to kill a lobster? (Yes, I'm aware of the irony of the headline) http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42647341
Is a lobster conscious?
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#128This morning I looked out of my kitchen window and saw a falcon picking apart a small animal (bird I think). It took an incredibly long time for the animal to stop moving. That's death in nature. We can and should strive to do better.
All animals should only be allowed to be raised in captivity and killed as humanely as possible.
And from there it follows that we must capture and enslave all humans, to prevent them from causing pain and hurting each other as they would given their own devices.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm desperately holding myself back from getting distracted from work with a deep dive through crustacean nervous system anatomy here, so I'll just ask: in what way are they different?
Having to do with the fact that lobsters (according to Wallace) have decentralized nervous systems consisting of ganglia wired in series, so that slicing through one of them might not disable the creature's nociception upon being immersed in boiling water. You might just be keeping it from flailing around, paralyzed but still "aware" in whatever sense a lobster is aware of anything. Dave Arnold, another favorite writ…
Radiolab spin-off More Perfect recently discussed the “cosmetic” presence of a paralytic drug in lethal injection concoctions. I can’t help but see a parallel.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait, what? You mean most people would volunteer to be tortured horribly as long as any damage is 100% reversed the next day? Uh, I’m not sure whether your model of people is entirely accurate.
Not volunteer for it alone, but try it as a part of a bigger package. Kind of like a more realistic version of a horror movie/game. Do you think i am entirely wrong, and suffering is worse than death? Do you think it is better to die, instead of enduring suffering and then getting to live some more?
Yes. Read reports of torture victims. They frequently request death over continued pain.