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MacOS may lose data on APFS-formatted disk images
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Re: MacOS may lose data on APFS-formatted disk images
#62some things take courage...
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#63Yes, fairly limited impact, but still. Data loss is fucking important. We aren't talking about an occasional stutter when moving windows or a sound driver that sometimes needs a reboot to resume working. This is a major bug. I would really really like it if Apple would get their shit together so that people who actually rely on their computers to work correctly can upgrade at some point.
As a counterpoint, APFS was deployed to almost a billion devices over the span of several months when it was release and, IIRC, this is the first major issue.
I'd point out it was deployed to iPhones - devices where the underlying physical disk won't get smaller so this bug would not have appeared.
iOS devices are extremely constrained in a number of ways that MacOS isn't - who knows how many other bugs have failed to surface because Apple thought their iOS test was a 'job done' moment.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
...So not an actual Apple Product.
My (limited) understanding of APFS is that it forgoes some integrity checks on the assumption that they have already been done by lower-level hardware. This is of course a debatable design decision, but it may indeed be unwise to use APFS on non-Apple hardware.
No, APFS must be usable on USB drives and so on. That would be a fatal design flaw.
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#65Yes, fairly limited impact, but still. Data loss is fucking important. We aren't talking about an occasional stutter when moving windows or a sound driver that sometimes needs a reboot to resume working. This is a major bug. I would really really like it if Apple would get their shit together so that people who actually rely on their computers to work correctly can upgrade at some point.
As a counterpoint, APFS was deployed to almost a billion devices over the span of several months when it was release and, IIRC, this is the first major issue.
Not contradicting you but this makes me wonder if writable disk images are used at all behind the scenes in iOS.
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#66High Sierra seems like a real gem.
YMMV. I haven't seen any issues, and I jumped right to APFS (yes, I backup religiously). FWIW, High Sierra been out for months and seen 3 public and many developer releases since its dot-0.
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#67Yes, fairly limited impact, but still. Data loss is fucking important. We aren't talking about an occasional stutter when moving windows or a sound driver that sometimes needs a reboot to resume working. This is a major bug. I would really really like it if Apple would get their shit together so that people who actually rely on their computers to work correctly can upgrade at some point.
As a counterpoint, APFS was deployed to almost a billion devices over the span of several months when it was release and, IIRC, this is the first major issue.
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Re: MacOS may lose data on APFS-formatted disk images
#68Yes, fairly limited impact, but still. Data loss is fucking important. We aren't talking about an occasional stutter when moving windows or a sound driver that sometimes needs a reboot to resume working. This is a major bug. I would really really like it if Apple would get their shit together so that people who actually rely on their computers to work correctly can upgrade at some point.
As a counterpoint, APFS was deployed to almost a billion devices over the span of several months when it was release and, IIRC, this is the first major issue.
As far as you know.
File systems fall into the category of software where a bug can have disastrous consequences. Even if the probability of a bug is small, the magnitude of the consequence means that the overall risk is still high. And the current quality of software coming from Apple is so bad that the probability is not low.
For myself, I'm not letting APFS near my systems for at least a couple more years.
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#69I upgraded my hackintosh to High Sierra with APFS. The next day, I accidentally switched off the machine while it was in the _process_ of shutting down (the screen had gone blank, but casing still emitting lights). Next time I turned it on, I couldn't get past login screen (giving me forever beach ball). I put the ssd inside my old MBP as slave to recover data. The ssd was corrupted, most data gone, as in shown in Fi…
...So not an actual Apple Product.
I am ignorant as to how that could matter? It's managed writes to a hard disk. How could the brand of hard disk, or the mobo, or whatever, matter in this situation?
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
As did other versions of OSX[0]. This whole meme should get a law like Betteridge’s. Complaints about the current release of macOS are as old as the hills[1] and have become entirely vacuous. That’s not to say the complaints aren’t necessarily without merit; just that there is too much hyperbole around them. [0] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apps-that-wont-work-on-... [1] https://youtu.be/GWxC8ezE4Dk
As well as every version of every OS ever. Windows 98 was the best, Windows XP sucked with it's Fisher Price UI. Then Vista/7 came around and the outcry of "if you want the latest DirectX, you have to upgrade". And then Windows XP was discontinued to much wailing and gnashing of teeth, because XP was the best. Then 8/10 came out and everything was terrible and we're just going to stick to Windows 7 because it's the b…
Cherry-picked anecdotes are worthless.
Few if any people glorified Panther when Tiger came out, or Leopard when Snow Leopard came out, or Win3.11 when Win95 came out, or Win95 when Win98 came out, or WinME when WinXP came out, or Vista when Win7 came out.
Stop dismissing legitimate complaints just because you worship "new and shiny"