Twitter Killing Its Mac App • Hacker News Board

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by Analemma_ » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:34 AM UTC

jhack wrote: post #27

So, alternatives? I have Twitter on the side next to my browser. Using Twitter in a separate window doesn't work because Twitter for the web isn't mobile friendly and mobile.twitter.com doesn't refresh if the window isn't in focus.

Tweeten (a Tweetdeck clone) is my preferred one, but other people like Tweetbot, and Twitteriffic just kickstarted a new Mac app that people seem to like too.

(typing that sentence out made me realize just how ridiculous Twitter app names really are :-) )

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by amedvednikov » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:34 AM UTC

jhack wrote: post #27

So, alternatives? I have Twitter on the side next to my browser. Using Twitter in a separate window doesn't work because Twitter for the web isn't mobile friendly and mobile.twitter.com doesn't refresh if the window isn't in focus.

I'm working on a desktop client for Twitter, FB, Slack etc.

It's pretty snappy and weighs only 90 KB (!)

https://eul.im

Twitter support is coming later this month.

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by drawkbox » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:37 AM UTC

startupdiscuss wrote: post #24

This allows the following to happen: 1. If someone can make a better MacOS client, they should do so and charge for it! 2. Customers can probably pick up a free client from someone who wants to play around or pay a little more for a pro client

Building on twitter is like trusting that any new Google product will be around in a few years, a huge developer risk.

Twitter killed off third party developers as ruthlessly as Nintendo killed third parties back in NES days.

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by startupdiscuss » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:37 AM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #26

startupdiscuss wrote: post #24

This allows the following to happen: 1. If someone can make a better MacOS client, they should do so and charge for it! 2. Customers can probably pick up a free client from someone who wants to play around or pay a little more for a pro client

"TweetBot" has been the canonical "good" Mac Twitter client for a while now. But there are strict limits on the number of clients Twitter allow for third party companies, which is why it's so expensive - so that they do not hit that limit. The whole situation is a mess.

I am not familiar with these limits. (I mean, I know they have some, but not how they work).

Can't any client just read off the web version? Is there something preventing that?

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by startupdiscuss » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:39 AM UTC

s73v3r_ wrote: post #25

startupdiscuss wrote: post #24

This allows the following to happen: 1. If someone can make a better MacOS client, they should do so and charge for it! 2. Customers can probably pick up a free client from someone who wants to play around or pay a little more for a pro client

But, doesn't Twitter have sufficient restrictions on the use of their API as to make this not really worthwhile?

I see from all the other responses too that this is the case. I thought if it was available to their own web client, another local client could just effectively scrape that data.

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by djsumdog » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:42 AM UTC

amedvednikov wrote: post #32

jhack wrote: post #27

So, alternatives? I have Twitter on the side next to my browser. Using Twitter in a separate window doesn't work because Twitter for the web isn't mobile friendly and mobile.twitter.com doesn't refresh if the window isn't in focus.

I'm working on a desktop client for Twitter, FB, Slack etc. It's pretty snappy and weighs only 90 KB (!) https://eul.im Twitter support is coming later this month.

Still no source code up? Do you intend for this to be open source or are you trying to push this commercially?

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by ilovecars2 » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:42 AM UTC

amedvednikov wrote: post #32

jhack wrote: post #27

So, alternatives? I have Twitter on the side next to my browser. Using Twitter in a separate window doesn't work because Twitter for the web isn't mobile friendly and mobile.twitter.com doesn't refresh if the window isn't in focus.

I'm working on a desktop client for Twitter, FB, Slack etc. It's pretty snappy and weighs only 90 KB (!) https://eul.im Twitter support is coming later this month.

This looks fascinating! Thanks! It could replace Slack desktop app for me, which is a bloated piece of sh*t.

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by startupdiscuss » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:42 AM UTC

drawkbox wrote: post #33

startupdiscuss wrote: post #24

This allows the following to happen: 1. If someone can make a better MacOS client, they should do so and charge for it! 2. Customers can probably pick up a free client from someone who wants to play around or pay a little more for a pro client

Building on twitter is like trusting that any new Google product will be around in a few years, a huge developer risk. Twitter killed off third party developers as ruthlessly as Nintendo killed third parties back in NES days.

The consensus is with you. I wonder if they could win it back somehow. Or at least make it easy enough so that building a client is low risk.

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by djsumdog » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:43 AM UTC

drawkbox wrote: post #33

startupdiscuss wrote: post #24

This allows the following to happen: 1. If someone can make a better MacOS client, they should do so and charge for it! 2. Customers can probably pick up a free client from someone who wants to play around or pay a little more for a pro client

Building on twitter is like trusting that any new Google product will be around in a few years, a huge developer risk. Twitter killed off third party developers as ruthlessly as Nintendo killed third parties back in NES days.

Yea, the whole FalconPro thing still has users angry.

Re: Twitter Killing Its Mac App

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Post by archgoon » Sat, Feb 17, 2018, 12:43 AM UTC

jhack wrote: post #27

So, alternatives? I have Twitter on the side next to my browser. Using Twitter in a separate window doesn't work because Twitter for the web isn't mobile friendly and mobile.twitter.com doesn't refresh if the window isn't in focus.

rainbowstream seems nice.

https://github.com/orakaro/rainbowstream