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Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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Google, just give me the option to ignore Getty images altogether. Why does Google always think they know what is best for me?

1. Try adding "-getty" to your image search 2. For the more general problem of searching free images only try hitting tools -> usage rights and select as desired

Wow, that still works. I'd largely given up on + and - lately.

Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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I feel somewhat angry at this tweet. Not because the feature is gone but because they are daft enough to assume that they can sell this as an improvement to their users and anyone will believe it.

>> Not because the feature is gone but because they are daft enough to assume that they can sell this as an improvement to their users and anyone will believe it. Imagine how users would feel if they said "We're making this change because people keep ripping off images via our search. Since the public can't be trusted to follow copyright law, we're not going to make it so easy to break." I'm sure the public would eat…

If nothing else, it would be refreshingly honest.

Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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Quotes from @searchliaison: "Today we're launching some changes on Google Images to help connect users and useful websites." "Ultimately, Google Images is a way for people to discover information in cases where browsing images is a better experience than text." Do you believe any of these statements? I am still surprised how easily corporations will hide their true motives, resolve any cognitive dissonance internally…

> Do you believe any of these statements? Well, technically "to help connect users and useful websites" is true. You now have to visit the website that had the photo if you want to download the full-size version, whereas previously you could bypass the site and download it from Google Images directly.

This new move is QUITE annoying on mobile.

After a tip I've switched to an alternative search engine that still works in the old fashion

https://www.startpage.com/

Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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Long ago, when I still thought of Google as a good company that made good decisions for its users, I never had the impression that I'd done an exhaustive web search until I searched on Google. Now, searching Google always gives me the impression that I'm searching a heavily filtered, AI-curated subset of the web. I switched to DDG recently, and so far the results give me that impression that I'm searching 'the whole…

I love DDG but the problem is that google is still the best whenever I want to search something that's not in English or that's localized. So I still use google for that.

Hmm, I get pretty good DDG search results in Japanese. I assume you're searching in your target language, rather than search terms in English with the name of your desired language tacked on?

Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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Image and html files are all documents on the web. Well at least they used to be. If you put an image on the web, you must expect people to be able to view it also without context.

Actually hot-linking in that way is often considered bad form because it can incur bandwidth costs, sometimes significant, for the image host.

You can decide to not serve them, looking at the referrer. Wanting your image to show up in image search results but not wanting it to be directly opened is trying to keep the cake and eat it at the same time.

Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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This only stops people who don't know how to "right click"

That doesn't seem to work either. If you right click and copy image address / open in new tab, the website opens and not the image itself.

I think that used to happen on some sites with the button anyway. Not sure how it's implemented but it could be as simple as: append a querystring to image URLs, and if you hit the URL without the querystring, serve a page instead.

Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

#237

Image and html files are all documents on the web. Well at least they used to be. If you put an image on the web, you must expect people to be able to view it also without context.

Actually hot-linking in that way is often considered bad form because it can incur bandwidth costs, sometimes significant, for the image host.

If the same amount of people visited the page containing that image, bandwidth would be a lot more with all the page content loading up. Is there good bandwidth and bad bandwidth?

Image author can embed watermarks, credits, branding into images. Make use of the fact the image is out there.

Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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Google's "image search" has been completely destroyed by Pinterest anyway. In that vein, this doesn't make much of a difference.

I'm curious, in what way? I can not look at any Pinterest content because I don't have an account with them. Figured most people would relent and sign up -- but perhaps this is the problem you were talking about?

Pintrest spams Image Search results with bogus results and uses them as the top of their funnel.

You click a Pintrest image unsuspectingly, Pintrest takes you to a vaguely relevant board the image is contained on, but you can't get to the image because a signup lightbox blocks the content.

This has wider implications because using reverse image search wont point you to the original images either anymore it'll mostly point to Pintrest results and therefore Pintrests signup form.

Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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I feel somewhat angry at this tweet. Not because the feature is gone but because they are daft enough to assume that they can sell this as an improvement to their users and anyone will believe it.

If the alternative would have been to disable the feature altogether, then this is an improvement. But to make this clear, they'd probably have to disable the feature for 2 days "because of the Getty case", then come up with this as a compromise. (Disclosure: I work for Google, but have nothing to do with that stuff nor any special insights)

I dont understand why they couldnt disable that feature for only companies that wanted it (through robots.txt) or redacted it some and gave the user to drop taht website from your search.

Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results

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Quotes from @searchliaison: "Today we're launching some changes on Google Images to help connect users and useful websites." "Ultimately, Google Images is a way for people to discover information in cases where browsing images is a better experience than text." Do you believe any of these statements? I am still surprised how easily corporations will hide their true motives, resolve any cognitive dissonance internally…

I agree on the general point. Corporate culture and the meaningless ways of talking that go with it are both (a) extremely dominant part of overall culture and (b) extremely disengenious and repressed. We talk like this a lot, among colleagues, to customers, politicians talk this way.

I'm not sure what's going on here though. It definitely isn't "some changes on Google Images to help connect users and useful websites." It's probably more to do with the fact that Google images is designed for viewing images, not finding links and that kind of makes it a content scraping site.

The idea that Google (or anyone) would speak normally (like a googler would speak, in a cafe) is oddly insane.

"After years of complaints and some lawsuits, we've decided to bite the bullet and take away the damned view image button. People use google images by searching for a thing and looking at the pictures. They don't really visit the website because well... they're looking for pictures not some random website that happens to have a picture. That means this isn't really a websearch site. It's pinterest with stolen content. Basically, Google images is kind of ilegal, but still dead useful. Hopefully this change will get the most litiguous photographers off our case and it'll be more or less business as usual."

I guess in this case speaking plainly actually does have nasty legal implications, but we do corporate speak regardless.

When OKCupid killed their app by making it a poorly implemented tinder clone with vestigial features, they pretended they had just discovered new and exciting things about first names, swiping and such.

Would it have really harmed them to say, real names are more normal now. Tinder is eating our lunch. Our average user keeps getting older. Our UI isn't as good for mobile or whatever reasons really drove those decisions. I'd be more interested in reading it then.

At the very least, ommit the meaningless stuff. Just say we're taking away this button and don't give a reason.

It would feel incredibly odd to lie like this between unincorporated natural persons in a noncommercial setting. Can you imagine telling your friends you'll noshow a bbq with some corproate-speak nonsense?.

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