I finally completely switched over to duck duck go, only a few days ago. The google doodle with autoplaying audio is what drove me over the edge.
(ddg is grand btw, ive barely noticed)
Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results
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Re: Google removes ‘view image’ button from search results
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel somewhat angry at this tweet. Not because the feature is gone but because they are daft enough to assume that they can sell this as an improvement to their users and anyone will believe it.
If the alternative would have been to disable the feature altogether, then this is an improvement. But to make this clear, they'd probably have to disable the feature for 2 days "because of the Getty case", then come up with this as a compromise. (Disclosure: I work for Google, but have nothing to do with that stuff nor any special insights)
To be more precise, eliminating convenience rather than removing the feature as a whole is preferable to removal, not an "improvement".
As an aside, I've often used "View Image" to access the image when the page itself didn't contain it. This actually hurts not only user experience, but also the actual success of the platform at its intended purpose.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The more interesting question is why google is doing this. They got sued. "These changes came about in part due to our settlement with Getty Images this week."
I don’t believe that this is the sole motivator. As others have said, they could remove this for Getty images only (based on domain, based on reverse image search, lots of ways). But also, this seems like an absurd judgement, that if true they would want to highlight how the judgement had a very specific design fix as part of the settlement. Since Google isn’t highlighting any such absurd ruling’s specific language t…
>...there must be some other reason.
If Getty can successful sue them, then any image rights holder can do so. Making an exception for Getty images doesn't resolve the underlying general liability or infringement. That means if another rights holder were to sue them for not addressing that liability for their images, now Google are infringing wilfully and subject to punitively increased sanctions or damages. That's reason enough to apply this remedy across the board.
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#204Quotes from @searchliaison: "Today we're launching some changes on Google Images to help connect users and useful websites." "Ultimately, Google Images is a way for people to discover information in cases where browsing images is a better experience than text." Do you believe any of these statements? I am still surprised how easily corporations will hide their true motives, resolve any cognitive dissonance internally…
Honesty has a cost.
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I think it's more the $200k salaries and badge of having Google on your resume.
(Asking out of curiosity and not trying to be a smartass) But is Google still that impressive of a note on your résumé these days? Most of the brightest students from my university off to work for or start innovative startups solving hard problems or they got research jobs at various engineering/energy companies, but a large number who were just kind of OK students got some fuzzy job at google doing who knows what bu…
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#206The only problem is that 90% of the time the image is removed from the site ! The image is often still hosted, but has been removed from the page content.
This is very annoying!
So the next step for Google is to actually make sure the site still has the image before including it in the search results.
btw Text search has the same problem, but is less annoying because we are so used to web sites not having the info and will just continue searching. It's extra annoying with images because we then actually knows it has the image we are looking for, but then it has not. It's like when the information I look for comes up in the site description, but when I visit the site it's not there.
I guess this is a hard problem to solve, but would improve the search experience a lot. One idea is to have the browser fetch the site content and do a full text search on it before it's displayed in the search result. Could be done with a browser extension.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The more interesting question is why google is doing this. They got sued. "These changes came about in part due to our settlement with Getty Images this week."
I don’t believe that this is the sole motivator. As others have said, they could remove this for Getty images only (based on domain, based on reverse image search, lots of ways). But also, this seems like an absurd judgement, that if true they would want to highlight how the judgement had a very specific design fix as part of the settlement. Since Google isn’t highlighting any such absurd ruling’s specific language t…
I think Google prefers to minimize the: "if this domain, and only this domain, do this special thing". Like you said, given that it would be absurd to remove a UI element based on some whim that it'd put them in compliance, I'm sure a major element of the plaintiff's litigation case hinged on this very feature.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the follow up tweets is more honest: >For those asking, yes, these changes came about in part due to our settlement with Getty Images this week (see also https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/15/17017864/google-removes-v... …). They are designed to strike a balance between serving user needs and publisher concerns, both stakeholders we value. https://twitter.com/searchliaison/status/964279749802512384
Google, just give me the option to ignore Getty images altogether. Why does Google always think they know what is best for me?
> Why does Google always think they know what is best for me?
This is the entire ethos of the "AI Revolution" in tech. The algorithm "knows what is best for you". This will only get worse with more "AI" being applied to more tech.
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#209Copyright stupidity trumps usability, as usual.
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#210DuckDuckGo still has this feature in their Images search, using the "View File" button. It also doesn't wrap the URL of search results in a Google redirect URL, so you can Right Click > Copy to get the actual URL of the webpage or image.
Long ago, when I still thought of Google as a good company that made good decisions for its users, I never had the impression that I'd done an exhaustive web search until I searched on Google. Now, searching Google always gives me the impression that I'm searching a heavily filtered, AI-curated subset of the web. I switched to DDG recently, and so far the results give me that impression that I'm searching 'the whole…
DDG is mostly just Bing results in case you're unaware.