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And I think we would all agree that the ideal amount of abuse heaped on your team is zero.
That's obviously true, but it doesn't detract from the point that women, in this case and many others, are unfairly targeted for abuse, particularly online.
Amazing. The author spends a lot of time to tell us a very convincing story how sexism affects people in our industry, and the Hacker News thread is full of people rationalizing it. - it's only because people think you're a bot - it's because of your target audience - it's because chat widgets are annoying - you don't really have enough data to make any conclusions How much will it take to convince the average HN rea…
"Rude people are sexist" or "Sexist people are rude" is about the only conclusion you can draw here (maybe not even that, correlation != causation etc etc) It doesn't even come close to showing how "sexism is everywhere". For all we know the sample could be entirely edgy 12 year olds. Tell me again how this self-admittedly "non-rigorous scientific study" proves "sexism is everywhere"? It could easily be that more att…
A single story like this doesn't prove anything, but the flood of stories just like that paint a pretty clear picture.
At some point you can no longer say: "This is an isolated incident".
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Thank you down voter for proving my point:)
I expect your downvotes are for the unnecessary and offensive inclusion of, "have to be mentally retarted [sic]." Without that I might have up-voted you for the other points made. (Although they could have been made with a less confrontational tone as well.)
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"Rude people are sexist" or "Sexist people are rude" is about the only conclusion you can draw here (maybe not even that, correlation != causation etc etc) It doesn't even come close to showing how "sexism is everywhere". For all we know the sample could be entirely edgy 12 year olds. Tell me again how this self-admittedly "non-rigorous scientific study" proves "sexism is everywhere"? It could easily be that more att…
You're probably new to HN, so you might not have seen all the other stories about sexism posted in the last year or so. A single story like this doesn't prove anything, but the flood of stories just like that paint a pretty clear picture. At some point you can no longer say: "This is an isolated incident".
Amazing. The author spends a lot of time to tell us a very convincing story how sexism affects people in our industry, and the Hacker News thread is full of people rationalizing it. - it's only because people think you're a bot - it's because of your target audience - it's because chat widgets are annoying - you don't really have enough data to make any conclusions How much will it take to convince the average HN rea…
Most people don't witness these kinds of things off the internet, or run with groups who never do this outside of one-to-ones with mostly disconnected people.
I don't dispute her results at all, but I can basically guarantee you that I haven't been around where a woman has said "hi" to someone and they're all "Yea, eff your mom". Only confounding factor I think comes in to play is the assumption that it's a bot, so you can say taboo/antisocial things without repute.
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"Rude people are sexist" or "Sexist people are rude" is about the only conclusion you can draw here (maybe not even that, correlation != causation etc etc) It doesn't even come close to showing how "sexism is everywhere". For all we know the sample could be entirely edgy 12 year olds. Tell me again how this self-admittedly "non-rigorous scientific study" proves "sexism is everywhere"? It could easily be that more att…
You're probably new to HN, so you might not have seen all the other stories about sexism posted in the last year or so. A single story like this doesn't prove anything, but the flood of stories just like that paint a pretty clear picture. At some point you can no longer say: "This is an isolated incident".
Since the post is framed as a gender issue, let me offer another view that I think is evidently good to remember in the conversation: according to studies, men are more likely to experience online harrasment [1]. [1] http://www.pewinternet.org/2017/07/11/online-harassment-2017...
There was a great blog post[0] recently regarding the recent Aziz Ansari story about sexual harassement. (If you haven't heard of this case, I encourage you to Google it.) It made a really great point that I believe -whichever side (if any) you take in the Ansari story- is very enlightening (at least it was for me), and that potentially applies to your study. I can't possibly explain it as well as the author, so plea…
Men and women experience and respond to online harassment in different ways. Overall, men are somewhat more likely to experience any form of harassing behavior online: 44% of men and 37% of women have experienced at least one of the six behaviors this study uses to define online harassment. In terms of specific experiences, men (30%) are modestly more likely than women (23%) to have been called offensive names online or to have received physical threats (12% vs. 8%).
By contrast, women – and especially young women – encounter sexualized forms of abuse at much higher rates than men. Some 21% of women ages 18 to 29 report being sexually harassed online, a figure that is more than double the share among men in the same age group (9%). In addition, roughly half (53%) of young women ages 18 to 29 say that someone has sent them explicit images they did not ask for. For many women, online harassment leaves a strong impression: 35% of women who have experienced any type of online harassment describe their most recent incident as either extremely or very upsetting, about twice the share among men (16%).
Wow.. Never done it myself, nor any of my friends, I never realized that this was such a huge problem. I read articles in the past but I always though they were exaggerating. Like I can't believe boys can be so rude online. Thanks for making time and writing the article and including the comments.
Don't over extrapolate this one instance to a rule. I think what was interesting was the testing. An audience that is mostly, say, pensioners, will likely have a very different result than a site that has as its first claim: "Meme Maker The most popular video meme maker on the Internet. Also works for images!" I really found the testing and the changes enlightening, and that is what strikes me as really interesting h…
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"Rude people are sexist" or "Sexist people are rude" is about the only conclusion you can draw here (maybe not even that, correlation != causation etc etc) It doesn't even come close to showing how "sexism is everywhere". For all we know the sample could be entirely edgy 12 year olds. Tell me again how this self-admittedly "non-rigorous scientific study" proves "sexism is everywhere"? It could easily be that more att…
You're probably new to HN, so you might not have seen all the other stories about sexism posted in the last year or so. A single story like this doesn't prove anything, but the flood of stories just like that paint a pretty clear picture. At some point you can no longer say: "This is an isolated incident".
A flood of biased anecdotes doesn't become truth or facts after a given count. Oponionated militants don't define reality.
Your comment indicates a profound lack of ratinal and objective thinking.