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The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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Don't believe it's wrong to say you are a very niche customer. Their selection of Hemingway isn't much better, but that's because they've got limited floor space. Not sure how they could solve your specific issue unless they had much bigger locations.

Is it so unrealistic? When I wanted a copy of _Beowulf_ in 2003 or so, what I did was I wandered into my local Borders and found it, and compared 5 or 6 different books; I ultimately settled on Heaney's translation which I liked the bits I read the most of, and then picked the volume with the most additional historical essays providing context. And _Beowulf_ is surely less read than Homer.

Heaney's traslation of Beowulf is a masterpiece in its own right.

Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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If management is assuring you repeatedly that there will be no layoffs, it's a good sign that layoffs are coming. If management is assuring you repeatedly that specific people will not be laid off, it's a good sign that those people will be laid off. At least this is what always seems to happen, IME.

I will never understand why people become loyal to their employers. You can be proud of your work, career, without being married to your employer.

This is the inevitable conclusion to a bookstore competing against Amazon, but they still act surprised...

Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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I agree with the beginning, especially about the deck chairs as its an expression I often use. Let's be clear its people like me who killed Barnes and Noble not its executives. I have two or three sets of bookshelves downstairs in my office filled with books, many of which were bought at B&N. I spent hours sipping coffee in their cafe's. Then I bought my kindle. And I basically have not been back since. When I do buy…

The tragedy, for me, is that while I agree with most of what you've said and my transition to ebooks has been similar to yours, I've also begun realizing what we're losing by moving away from brick-and-mortar retail. I look back on my childhood in the 80s and 90s and remember retail as not only fulfilling the need of acquiring stuff but also as a central meeting place. Going downtown to buy stuff was an activity as m…

I go to movie theaters pretty much all the time for that reason. I wanna go where people are and not sit in my house. Plus usually Netflix doesn't have any shows i care that much about watching except for oa or a backstreet boys documentary

Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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I don't agree with the basic premise of the article wrt job security. B&N does not owe you a job. Nobody does. You got to work at the same company for 20 years? You should be happy and gracious. All things come to an end. I'm 37 and the longest I've worked at a company was 3.5 years, and that was my own startup. I average about 2-3 years/company. I'd kill to find a company/job where I can stay for 5 years without bec…

Plus these sound like mostly entry level, no-qualification jobs. I can't imagine why anyone would feel like they had any real measure of job security at jobs like those.

Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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I can see how the author views this as company mismanagement, but I'd offer a possible counter: Online is killing retail, full stop. High touch sales models everywhere have lost profitablity due to "showrooming" -- curation and upselling aren't profitable for B&N, and they won't ever be again. To adapt, management needs to move to a lower touch model based on thin margins, web sales, and simpler stores. To do this, t…

Except, you know, lying about the upcoming layoffs.

That fits in just fine with the above, at least as far as my understanding of businesses and what their goals are is...

Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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Barnes and Noble had a huge high-margin section, just like Best Buy did... their ridiculous physical video and music section. I think the availability of streaming services did as much to hurt those "book" stores as reasonable competition from Amazon.

>Best Buy You mean circuit city?

Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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This is the flip-side of creative destruction. Amazon and ecommerce in general have given us a world where brick and mortar retail often just can't compete. 99% of these layoffs and restructurings, etc. are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The writer of this article seems to think that the executives are just trying to milk the company all the way down, but it's not even clear to me there's a better o…

> Now, it's definitely sad when people lose their jobs, but that's kind of the devil's bargain we've made with capitalism. It's not so much a "bargain" as it is how we discover which jobs are useful. Capitalism is very efficient at exposing useless labor, and this is a good thing. Having a bunch of humans laboring at jobs no one needs or wants is wasteful.

"Capitalism is very efficient at exposing useless labor"

No its really not a lot of work out there adds limited value to anyone's life.

Further the measure of the worth of the labor is determined by how much resources the decision making party controls.

Something which flatters a rich person and ads negligable value is worth more than something that keeps 3 poor people alive.

Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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Not the one near me (in Phoenix, near Arizona State University). It's a major anchor in a shopping center, and is busy every time I'm ever in there. The employees are also really helpful. This Christmas, I was trying to find some books as a christmas gift, and the staff made a bunch of suggestions based on books that they had actually personally read. Sidenote: finding appropriate books for 8-14 year old girls is rea…

It’s weird, but some stores are thriving and others are dying. The one in downtown Santa Monica Ca is super crowded whenever I went there, while the one in downtown Bellevue WA is super dead. My impression of B&N changes quickly....

Funny enough that one in downtown Santa Monica just shut down after being open for twenty-something years.

Source:

I work/live near there and always went.

Also http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2018/01/barnes_noble_close...

Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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Just wanted to say that in NYC, the quality of book selection at Barnes and Noble is just amazing. In my opinion, it's way better then the hyped Strand, for example. So, maybe, go to your local B&N some time and just buy a book? Support brick-and-mortar bookstores, while we haven't succumbed to Amazon just yet.

Re: The unnecessary demise of Barnes and Noble

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'The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act of 1988 (the "WARN Act") is a US labor law which protects employees, their families, and communities by requiring most employers with 100 or more employees to provide 60 calendar-day advance notification of plant closings and mass layoffs of employees, as defined in the Act.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraini...

It's sad that old-school books are dying. I love books, especially older hard cover books; but, if you know your business and industry are dying, then you owe it to your team who got you there to engineer a soft landing. That's simply the ethical thing to do.

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