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Interesting write on the simplicity of IE8 vs. Safari: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1638772
Its not cleaner or simpler, its exactly the same. Stupid people just stare at the pretty picture thats all. You need 2 search boxes, links bar and tabs and a title bar and a status line. Everything else better take up no room. There is no possibility of the interface changing, period. Ever.
1) It isn't exactly the same. The tab bar has been floated next to the URL bar, some of the icons have been shifted around, and overall, it seems to take up less space for the browser chrome to allow more space for the content. 2) Why do you need 2 search boxes? 3) Really? No possibility of the interface ever changing? I honestly figured Mozilla had it all figured out with Firefox 3.0 (or whichever version had the se…
If the browser is missing any of these lines I will add it. The interface is exactly the same, internet hasnt changed browsing hasnt changed. What you need to do in a browser hasnt changed. Its nonsense.
Every. Single. Time.
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Removing (or rather probably just moving to be in a menu somewhere) things is definitely not the only key to simplicity, but I think it does help in this case. I think it does look quite a bit simpler to comprehend at least with respect to not slamming too much different stuff in the same sort of grouping. When I start up IE 8 I get the tab bar which has, in this order: A favorites button with an icon and a label, th…
The main problem I see is that they have made it simple by removing stuff but leaving no room complexity and still making the look of it complex. For instance the browser background is semi-transparent which means that yes the page will probably stand out more in some respect but at the same time they have no canvas to work with to make additions, allow for third party stuff. It will have to sit on top of that transp…
I don't see a problem since the tabs are not transparent, just with a small gradient like Chrome, and it's probably not going to be possible to add things (icons from extensions?) to the main controls of the browser.
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1) It isn't exactly the same. The tab bar has been floated next to the URL bar, some of the icons have been shifted around, and overall, it seems to take up less space for the browser chrome to allow more space for the content. 2) Why do you need 2 search boxes? 3) Really? No possibility of the interface ever changing? I honestly figured Mozilla had it all figured out with Firefox 3.0 (or whichever version had the se…
You need an address box and a search box. You need tabs. real estate concerns mean thats 2 lines so far. you need a favorites line (or i do anyway) you need a title line and a status line. If the browser is missing any of these lines I will add it. The interface is exactly the same, internet hasnt changed browsing hasnt changed. What you need to do in a browser hasnt changed. Its nonsense.
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1) It isn't exactly the same. The tab bar has been floated next to the URL bar, some of the icons have been shifted around, and overall, it seems to take up less space for the browser chrome to allow more space for the content. 2) Why do you need 2 search boxes? 3) Really? No possibility of the interface ever changing? I honestly figured Mozilla had it all figured out with Firefox 3.0 (or whichever version had the se…
You need an address box and a search box. You need tabs. real estate concerns mean thats 2 lines so far. you need a favorites line (or i do anyway) you need a title line and a status line. If the browser is missing any of these lines I will add it. The interface is exactly the same, internet hasnt changed browsing hasnt changed. What you need to do in a browser hasnt changed. Its nonsense.
I agree that you need tabs, but I thought that the IE9 preview was pretty clever in floating the tabs next to the address bar, meaning it takes up one less panel than before.
Do you need a title line? Really?
Do you need a status line? I think the default behavior in Chrome is that the 'status' line floats onto the screen when there's something to show, otherwise there isn't one. I agree that you need a favorites bar, but I disagree that it won't ever change.
As for your second paragraph, let's just say that I disagree with it both in premise and in practice. Chrome's UI completely obliterates the points you suggest in the first paragraph, and again, I think the assertion that it won't ever change is as wrong as the (faulty) assertion that it hasn't ever changed, because clearly it has.
I'm not a fan of mixing tabs on the same level as the url box. but I can imagine it was a design decision to allow for a bit more reading on widescreen monitors. I'm no fan to judge though, as I don't think I've actively used ie for nearly a decade now.
My hope would be that the "tab bar" would act like any toolbar that IE has today - easily dragged down to its own row. Heck, it might have been dragged UP by whomever took that screenshot.
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You need an address box and a search box. You need tabs. real estate concerns mean thats 2 lines so far. you need a favorites line (or i do anyway) you need a title line and a status line. If the browser is missing any of these lines I will add it. The interface is exactly the same, internet hasnt changed browsing hasnt changed. What you need to do in a browser hasnt changed. Its nonsense.
I'm not saying you don't need a search box, but I use the address bar as my search box. That's even the default layout in Google Chrome isn't it?
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I'm not saying you don't need a search box, but I use the address bar as my search box. That's even the default layout in Google Chrome isn't it?
So far, I prefer the Chrome approach of a unified address+search bar to the Mozilla approach of 2 separate boxes. 1 keyboard shortcut to access either is far better than 2 .. if you type a search term in the firefox address bar as well, it'll search it for you ..