It's going to be odd if Win10 gets labeled as PUP (potentially unwanted program) by antivirus software.
which is going to happen... never. unless that said antivirus wants to commit market suicide by pissing off every user.
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#12When you choose Windows, the computer uses you. When you choose Linux, you use the computer. Stop complaining and start switching. It should be apparent by now that Microsoft isn't going to stop their bad behavior.
It's never that simple, especially for professional users and gamers. Those whose applications are only available for Windows. Sure, there are some open source alternatives, but they are only rarely as good, and even more seldom better, than their Windows counterparts.
Gamers who bend over for the sake of their hobby are a pathetic bunch. Linux has many, many great games, and if that's not enough supplement it with a PS4 or something and you'll never be bored.
Most professionals would have no problem using Linux for their needs. What applications are you suggesting aren't up to snuff?
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#14It's going to be odd if Win10 gets labeled as PUP (potentially unwanted program) by antivirus software.
which is going to happen... never. unless that said antivirus wants to commit market suicide by pissing off every user.
True. But it could make for a pretty funny April Fools' joke (-in disguise).
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#15When you choose Windows, the computer uses you. When you choose Linux, you use the computer. Stop complaining and start switching. It should be apparent by now that Microsoft isn't going to stop their bad behavior.
Sorry Sir_Cmpwn, but that's happening with W10. Windows 8.1 with the 'Windows Firewall Control", classicshell, a strong HOSTS file (someonewhocares.org), and a Firefox with NoScript/ublock/adblock+/etc and you got your privacy control in order. I do agree with the Linux argument you are making, but you cannot swerve 50% of the global Windows users into Linux. It still doesn't have the best UI reputation (although it…
Plasma is basically windows 10 UI, and Cinnamon is windows 7 UI.
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#16I'm running "Pro" and I'm not seeing this.
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#17It’s hard to believe that the loss of goodwill is worth whatever revenue Microsoft’s gaining from this, so I have to assume this is them dipping their toe into a strategy that attempts to make them more relevant to users. Maybe a reaction to the Windows app store’s lack of success? Thoughts?
I think it shows how little value Windows is to Microsoft anymore. Office 365 and Azure are where the money is at for the company now.
I use Win 10 Enterprise at work so I don't have to worry about any of the Candy Crush or FB malware trash on my PC but no way would I buy a consumer Windows based laptop anymore.
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#18I set up my brother in-law's new HP laptop he got from Costco and I had to spend over 2 hours removing crap from it. The amount of crapware installed (and a lot of them are MS apps) is unreal.
(Unfortunately) HP has been loading their machines with crapware for about a decade now. :(
It's not just HP it's just about everything that comes out an retail store without an apple logo on it(unless you count itunes/facetime as unwanted software in which case it's just about everything).
If you buy high end laptops from a business partner or directly from the vendor and make sure you get a pro(paid) version of windows things are better but the razor thin margins of the consumer market make it hard to avoid strange and badly designed attempts at price differentiation and/or payola schemes.
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It's never that simple, especially for professional users and gamers. Those whose applications are only available for Windows. Sure, there are some open source alternatives, but they are only rarely as good, and even more seldom better, than their Windows counterparts.
Gamers who bend over for the sake of their hobby are a pathetic bunch. Linux has many, many great games, and if that's not enough supplement it with a PS4 or something and you'll never be bored. Most professionals would have no problem using Linux for their needs. What applications are you suggesting aren't up to snuff?
Because the XBOX and PS and Switch are totally safe, open source products that respect personal information.
Linux has more gaming than it did 5-10 years ago, but if someone wants to play a game at top performance on PC, you typically need to choose Windows.
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#20When you choose Windows, the computer uses you. When you choose Linux, you use the computer. Stop complaining and start switching. It should be apparent by now that Microsoft isn't going to stop their bad behavior.
It's never that simple, especially for professional users and gamers. Those whose applications are only available for Windows. Sure, there are some open source alternatives, but they are only rarely as good, and even more seldom better, than their Windows counterparts.
> especially for professional users and gamers. Those whose applications are only available for Windows.
I have gotten around this with a virtualized Windows installation for CAD applications. The Windows VM goes online for software activation only.
With VFIO, a dedicated graphics card, and an nVME SSD I don't feel any performance degradation. The graphics card and nVME drive are passed directly to the VM. Some simple benchmarks show there is ~3% performance decline in the VM vs booting it native, but I don't "feel" it.
Granted, picking VFIO compliant hardware and setting everything up is far outside the ability of the average Windows user.