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How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare?

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Re: How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare?

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I'm amused that IRC is the only one of those you listed that is still alive and doing well.

It's alive, but I don't know about 'doing well'. It survives among some special interest communities, but the usage is tiny compared to any of the major platforms now. You won't find your uncle on it.

If you've been to an open source conference that lasts a week the pattern is always the same: the bulk of messaging ends up on IRC.

It doesn't start out that way. First you have a lot of people pushing their favourite barrows. Then they set up IRC gateways. Then they bleed users to IRC. I've been to a few conferences that keep actual statistics of messages published, and it's always the same.

But it's well hidden. No one gives up pushing their barrow, so if you just listen to the conference gossip you would never know it's happening.

Re: How did Google Talk change from a dream to a nightmare?

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I've migrated off Google services as much as possible over the last six months; I use Duck Duck Go for searches, and fastmail for email with my own domain. I also use the fastmail client's built in calendar. So far I've only had to fall back to a Google search a few times in six months, and the fastmail client is light years behind gmail inbox and gcal, but it's fine for my usage patterns. A year ago I was spending h…

This seems to be a common and popular trend these days, especially on HN. Is anyone doing the opposite and becoming more ingrained into the Google ecosystem? I'd love to dive more into the Android/Google side of things, but these sentiments are (unfortunately) making me think twice about doing so. I'd like to read different perspectives if they are out there.

Yes, kinda. I tried the iPhone 8 (this is Brazil..) after 8 years on Android and feel like Android is much more modern, integrated, free, and even has better designs on so many places (yes, its odd). Particularly the Play Store is beautiful compared to the App Store.

Every app on iOS has a paywall, integrations are limited, apps can't process your SMS, stuff like this enrages me. Actually I couldn't even find a good way to transfer images/codes both ways, like I do with PushBullet on Chrome + Android all the time.

For me iOS also misses taps and lags on some operations. If using Swiftkey, sometimes the wrong keyboard will pop-up. I feel like the image I had as an outsider that iOS was perfect and smooth kinda broke.

So I guess I cannot compare to other people because they use their phones differently: I have to test everything...

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