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What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

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Re: What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

#21

No power plugs (I think most effective) & time limited Wifi. A cafe is not a coworking space although when beeing in USA or more specifically in SF I have the feeling people think it's the same.

A place near me limits WiFi to 45 minutes at peak times, which I think is best. AC outlets on the other hand are for more than laptops. If I'm going somewhere for a coffee, it's good to be able to charge my phone too.

Re: What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

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How common is it for people to do actual, regular, serious work at coffee shops and the like? I've tried a couple of times and I always feel like such a pretentious wanker when I pull out a laptop and start working on stuff, like I'm somehow broadcasting "oh look at me, I work remotely, aren't I special?"

I wrote kind of a dumb amount of my dissertation at Mishka's Cafe and the Delta of Venus in Davis. Mishka's has a thin row of seating at the front with a 'no work' policy - including no reading except for newspapers - and then a huge area of grad students on laptops. Delta's much less structured, has a lot more ambient conversation, and has a real (and excellent) kitchen which I imagine rounds out their business nicely.

So, yeah, it's a pretty easy habit to get into as a student.

These days, I mainly get my solo research in on weekends, and spend a few hours in a local coffee shop. I tip generously, and occasionally buy a pound of coffee to keep things on the up and up.

Re: What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

#23

> At Triniti, Mr. Wynn offers free Wi-Fi, but after two hours a customer must have “a face-to-face interaction” with an employee, he says, to get a new password This is the best approach. (The "a staff member will approach the uninitiated customer whose laptop is open for more than a couple of minutes with a gentle but firm request ‘to finish up what you’re doing and close the laptop, please,’ approach is the worst.…

Not really, 4G is good now, local wifi is not needed

Re: What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

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post #2

How common is it for people to do actual, regular, serious work at coffee shops and the like? I've tried a couple of times and I always feel like such a pretentious wanker when I pull out a laptop and start working on stuff, like I'm somehow broadcasting "oh look at me, I work remotely, aren't I special?"

I wrote kind of a dumb amount of my dissertation at Mishka's Cafe and the Delta of Venus in Davis. Mishka's has a thin row of seating at the front with a 'no work' policy - including no reading except for newspapers - and then a huge area of grad students on laptops. Delta's much less structured, has a lot more ambient conversation, and has a real (and excellent) kitchen which I imagine rounds out their business nice…

I work in the Bay Area as a software engineer but live in Davis and work from there two days a week (wife is a PhD student). Delta of Venus is the only place I can get work done.

Re: What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

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post #2

How common is it for people to do actual, regular, serious work at coffee shops and the like? I've tried a couple of times and I always feel like such a pretentious wanker when I pull out a laptop and start working on stuff, like I'm somehow broadcasting "oh look at me, I work remotely, aren't I special?"

I feel the same way, and have never been able to work on a laptop in a coffee shop. I prefer to work in silence too, and never listen to music etc. while working, so this probably is a big factor for me.

What I do enjoy in coffee shops though, is writing ideas and planning/brainstorming projects (by hand) in my paper notebook.

Re: What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

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post #2

How common is it for people to do actual, regular, serious work at coffee shops and the like? I've tried a couple of times and I always feel like such a pretentious wanker when I pull out a laptop and start working on stuff, like I'm somehow broadcasting "oh look at me, I work remotely, aren't I special?"

I did this in tearooms. There usually were ~3 sections in a tearoom, one with tables and stools, one with cushions and one where you could smoke nargile/hookah.

Sitting at a table for two with a laptop was fine. There usually would be at least one more. It would more often than not broadcast "student" than "pretentious remote worker"

Re: What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is called a coworking space ;)

Local coworking haunt (UK) is about £20 per day or more. That equates to about 10 coffees. Or 6 coffees, 1 soup and 1 cake. Which starts to make the cafe more appealing.

I don't think £20 a day is so bad really but my experience of co-working spaces is they are often just cafes without the coffee, so not worth paying for.

When I lived in Spain I managed to find an office for 150 euro a month (all inclusive), which was ideal. Now back in the UK I'd likely pay that a week for anything comparable.

Outside of London there is a dire shortage of accessible and affordable work spaces.

Re: What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

#28
There's a restaurant near me with a 5 cent cellphone charge that just doesn't get enforced. The simple fact that it is noted and low keeps people aware that it is a faux pas but not too grouchy about it (especially over a $150 dinner). Feels like a reasonable compromise in that environment.

Re: What to Do When Laptops and Silence Take Over Your Cafe?

#30

> At Triniti, Mr. Wynn offers free Wi-Fi, but after two hours a customer must have “a face-to-face interaction” with an employee, he says, to get a new password This is the best approach. (The "a staff member will approach the uninitiated customer whose laptop is open for more than a couple of minutes with a gentle but firm request ‘to finish up what you’re doing and close the laptop, please,’ approach is the worst.…

Not really, 4G is good now, local wifi is not needed

I'm guessing most people using cafes as workplaces are going to baulk at paying for 4G? It can get really expensive if you're working more than a couple of hours a day.
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