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AMP for email is a terrible idea
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Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#132There are a number of threads here which seem to have been downvoted because of the perceived quality of the ideas they contain. However, I always thought that downvoting was meant to be reserved for low quality discussion, rather than disagreement. Has this changed, or was I always wrong?
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
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We have the exact opposite opinion then. I moved to DuckDuckGo on iOS because I thought the AMP formatted Google search results were so user-hostile. Maybe they’ve fixed the bizarre scrolling and overly sensitive links by now, but I see no reason to find out, because I don’t feel like I’m missing anything.
I know the scrolling issues we're bugs in webkit. Google (I believe) started to employ a webkit dev to fix the problems.
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#134Web is quite usable with or without AMP as long as you use some ad blockers.
As far as I understand, on Android, Google predominantly shows AMP pages on Chrome and not on Firefox (have not used other browsers to comment on. Will be great if someone chimes in on this).
This results in a good user experience for users of Chrome on Android.
But Android Chrome was made unusable by Google in the first place by not allowing extensions. So NoScript, AdBlockPlus, Ublock Origin etc will not work. So all the junk loads and you have an awful experience.
AMP comes in and saves the day :)
On Android Firefox, no such drama. I can just install Ublock Origin and have a great browsing experience what ever the site it is. Reader Mode is a bonus. (Though I have rarely used it).
What does it all say?
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's why I like to map one of my own subdomains to the cdn service. So everything is at cdn.example.com and if I change providers, it's just a dns record change and everything is ready, even if I want to just host my own content.
Wouldn't the paths change between providers?
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#136AMP is, to begin with, Google exerting its market power to extend its control over others’ content. Facebook is doing it, so Google has to. As a consumer, I actually love AMP. Everytime I click a news link on mobile and am taken to AMP, I'm relieved to be free from the extremely distracting original websites. Google has done a lot of exciting work on open standards like JSON-LD [0] and Microdata [1] to bring a better…
We have the exact opposite opinion then. I moved to DuckDuckGo on iOS because I thought the AMP formatted Google search results were so user-hostile. Maybe they’ve fixed the bizarre scrolling and overly sensitive links by now, but I see no reason to find out, because I don’t feel like I’m missing anything.
So feel free to call it names and bring up feelings, but what I care about is the actual objective experience I'm getting.
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's why I like to map one of my own subdomains to the cdn service. So everything is at cdn.example.com and if I change providers, it's just a dns record change and everything is ready, even if I want to just host my own content.
Doesn't that kill the possibility that a visitor will already have common content cached when visiting your site for the first time? I know that's not the only reason to use a CDN, but it's a pretty big one.
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#138Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#139For everyone who feels AMP makes the web usable: A few points for thought. Web is quite usable with or without AMP as long as you use some ad blockers. As far as I understand, on Android, Google predominantly shows AMP pages on Chrome and not on Firefox (have not used other browsers to comment on. Will be great if someone chimes in on this). This results in a good user experience for users of Chrome on Android. But A…
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
We have the exact opposite opinion then. I moved to DuckDuckGo on iOS because I thought the AMP formatted Google search results were so user-hostile. Maybe they’ve fixed the bizarre scrolling and overly sensitive links by now, but I see no reason to find out, because I don’t feel like I’m missing anything.
It doesn't matter how you "feel", I know for a matter of fact, objectively and measurably, that my load times have gotten significantly faster, and that AMP has achieved what thousands of sites have failed to do. So feel free to call it names and bring up feelings, but what I care about is the actual objective experience I'm getting.