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Re: Bringing AMP to Gmail

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Post by TeMPOraL »

dannyw wrote: post #15
pmlnr wrote: post #4

I genuinely fear the future of email. Email is still the only piece of communication you can own, from top to bottom, from running the service to owning the domain[^1] it runs on. You were able to send anyone email, regardless of rank, location, social status. Google (and recently, Outlook) is taking all of it away. It's putting mail from people not on your contact list in spam[^3]; it's by default blaclisting IPs wi…

Google’s style is “develop, control, prioritize, monoplize”.

> Google’s style is “develop, control, prioritize, monoplize”

“develop, control, prioritize, monoplize and sunset”. Don't forget the last step.

Re: Bringing AMP to Gmail

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Post by jonmarkgo »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #5

How about offering an opt-out for AMP before piling on more crap ?

I noticed that AMP has recently started adding 'apps' to my launcher in Android. I visited Vimeo.com in mobile Chrome and then suddenly a Vimeo app icon with a little AMP symbol showed up in my launcher without any opt-in.

Re: Bringing AMP to Gmail

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Post by adewale »

jwilk wrote: post #41

I read the post and I have still no idea what is this about. They say that the spec is available. But where? They link to https://github.com/ampproject , which is just a list of projects, none of which seem relevant.

The spec is here: https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13457

Re: Bringing AMP to Gmail

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Post by 77pt77 »

The potential for malicious abuse of this is almost endless.

I feel very sorry for the state of email.

An interesting concept with very antiquated technology that is getting more and more centralized.

Having a personal/corporate server and interacting with the big boys (Google, Microsoft, even yahoo) is getting more and more difficult.

Re: Bringing AMP to Gmail

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Post by adewale »

therealmarv wrote: post #7

So with AMP for email can I run timer based or mouse movement based modifying email contents??? When yes: spam mails will love it.

It's AMP so you won't be able to run (your own) Javascript so that kind of thing shouldn't be possible.

Re: Bringing AMP to Gmail

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Post by [deleted] »

megous wrote: post #28
kuschku wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, I’ve had only good experiences with self-hosting my email. I’ve never had issues with being blacklisted or anything. But I’ve been sending with SPF + DKIM + DMARC + ADSP all configured and enabled since day one, and with TLS transport for all sent emails. That usually gives a major boost in trustworthiness.

Unless your IP address is deemed being in a bad block. Then all of the above is not even checked (on outlook.com, that is).

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Re: Bringing AMP to Gmail

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Post by [deleted] »

pmlnr wrote: post #4

I genuinely fear the future of email. Email is still the only piece of communication you can own, from top to bottom, from running the service to owning the domain[^1] it runs on. You were able to send anyone email, regardless of rank, location, social status. Google (and recently, Outlook) is taking all of it away. It's putting mail from people not on your contact list in spam[^3]; it's by default blaclisting IPs wi…

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Re: Bringing AMP to Gmail

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Post by SippinLean »

jwilk wrote: post #41

I read the post and I have still no idea what is this about. They say that the spec is available. But where? They link to https://github.com/ampproject , which is just a list of projects, none of which seem relevant.

>To get developer preview access to AMP for email in Gmail, sign up on our site.

It's a subset of existing AMP components.

Re: Bringing AMP to Gmail

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Post by kuschku »

MadQA wrote: post #60
beagle3 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have everything properly set up, and wasn’t blacklisted once in any service since 2002.... until 3 months ago, when Google decided to blacklist my domain, but only randomly (e.g. mails sent to same person on same day get delivered to inbox or spam seemingly based on a coin toss). The only clue I have so far is that in some discussion, it was mentioned that google penalizes a domain of a lot of different emails from…

Have you tried to check https://postmaster.google.com/ ? You _may_ get an insight on what went wrong those 3 months ago

That requires hundreds or thousands of emails from your domain per day to show anything - which is useful if you run a major service, but for the use case of "every person hosts their own email", it’s not exactly useful.
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