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Why There Aren't More Googles

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Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

#31
I am seriously having issues visualizing someone saying "this is not a good idea" to google founders. Perhaps I am too young or perhaps S&L were terrible salesmen, but I simply fail to see how come a relevant search seemed like a bad idea to VCs they talked to: and this is not 1995 we're talking here, back when Google was starting it was clear to many that everything was going to be online, and finding stuff will be hard, this is why everyone was into catalogs/portals.

Maybe I am too much of an "idea guy", but in my opinion the reason why there aren't many googles is simply because there aren't many good ideas around. I don't even consider social networking to be of any significant value (I'm with Maroon on this one). In that regard it was awkward to see Facebook and Google mentioned in the same sentence several times.

Even something as awesome as RSS isn't taking off (and it's been like 5 years already), let alone toys like Twitter that only a certain "inner circle" of people are using talking mostly to themselves. Not good enough.

Yes, yes - "implementation is more important", but without an idea there is nothing to implement to begin with. Most startups I know a little bit about seem more like an excuse for smart and driven people to work together: they aren't building anything particularly innovative. An no, they won't become next google regardless of what VCs or potential acquirers will do, it's a very rare case where I don't agree with Paul at all.

Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

#32
"The low cost of starting a startup means the average good bet is a riskier one, but most existing VC firms still operate as if they were investing in hardware startups in 1985."

I don't understand the idea behind this sentence. In this context what is a good bet, a company with certain traits or does this refer to a certain type of portfolio strategy, say one that expects most startups to fail and a few to win big? Also, how does the falling cost of startups make the average good bet riskier? Is it because it lowers the barriers for competitors? Or is it because any idiot can say they're doing a startup so it's harder for investors to know which ones are good and which ones are bad? Also, what was investing in hardware startups like in 1985? Are you saying that VCs today evaluate companies with low capital requirements and high risk as if they are capital intensive with low risk? This has multiple implications, and which one(s) was in your head when you wrote this is not entirely clear to me.

EDIT: Rewrote the last few sentences

Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

#33

> VC firms present an image of boldly encouraging innovation. Only a handful actually do. pg, can I ask for examples ? I am genuinely curious.

Sequoia as a firm is significantly bolder than the others. They really don't care what other VCs think. I also like David Hornik and Fred Wilson.

Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

#34
this article makes the good point that the mba types who are running vc funds are fundamentally ill-suited for identifying and investing in technology startups. paul graham identified this as true for managers of startups as well; and this is a defining feature of yc--investing in technology people vs. investing in mba types who hire programmers. of course, the logical extension is that the people doing the investing themselves should be technology people because they alone can recognize value in the technology sector. whatever value mba vc types did bring to the table, understanding of business management and such, is becoming less relevant with smaller startups and less money to be allocated.

Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

#35
Investment and acquisition issues aside, the reason there aren't more Googles is because... there aren't that many Googles. Their mission statement is huge: "organize the world's information. From the get-go they had a unique algorithm that could do it. They just needed money to keep expanding their infrastructure.

I'm not convinced there are many bold, innovative founders with world-changing inventions that are falling through the cracks. The genius maverick entrepreneur is mostly an imaginary romantic archetype. Many founders these days seem as conservative as investors if you compare the scope of their ideas to Google, Apple, Ebay, Skype, or other projects that did change the world. The modus operandi for founders these days seems to be "aim sorta low and cash out early."

Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

#36
"Why are VCs so conservative? ..."

I just read a fascinating book - Gut Feelings by Gerd Gigerenzer. It's by the guy who did most of the research that Malcolm Gladwell's Blink is based upon. The central thesis was that people have evolved heuristics for decision making that let them quickly make snap decisions more effectively than gathering full information, but a couple chapters were on an interesting corollary: in the absence of hard data on their performance, most people's decision-making heuristic falls back to "Will I be blamed for this decision?"

He provided a bunch of examples from different professions. For example, doctors' decisions often aren't based on solid evidence-based medicine (which is often contradictory), but rather on "Will I be sued if I do or don't perform this treatment?" If you want the doctor's actual opinion, you should ask "If it were your own mother, what would you recommend?" instead of "What would you recommend I do?" - the former shifts the doctor's perspective so that they're thinking "How can I provide the best care?" rather than "Will this person sue me?" A study of UK magistrates found that 92% of their bail decisions could be predicted by the following heuristic: "Did any of the prosecution, police, or previous court recommend bail?" If not, and the defendant commits a crime, it falls into the category of unforeseeable events and the magistrate can't be blamed for it.

A similar effect may be at work with VCs. It's usually impossible to know, even with hindsight, what the opportunity cost of a lost deal was. If a VC turns down the next Google, chances are nothing happens and the company just fizzles. If a VC invests and it goes bust, however, everyone knows. So it pays for the VC to invest like everyone else does: then they can blame any failure on "Well, this was completely unforeseeable: everyone else was sure they'd be a success too." It's the combination of risk aversion, self-interest, and lack of feedback that drives this. If VCs actually had solid conceptual frameworks and good data for evaluating possible opportunities, they could rely on that rather than on their peers' evaluations. (Maybe this explains Sequoia...)

Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

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> The reason there aren't more Googles is not that investors encourage innovative startups to sell out, but that they won't even fund them. This goes for YC as well. Surely there are some technically innovative applicants that don't fit the mould of web sites to make quizzes or 10-second cartoons or other such dubious acceptees. Google itself would have been rejected on at least a couple of grounds: project being too…

You're wrong. We care mostly about the founders. And we have funded projects so ambitious that they've taken 2 years to build.

I'm curious: Where does the $15k number fit into that? At one point it was explained as "this should be enough money for you to live off for three months" -- if you're funding groups which take 2 years to launch, how are they supporting themselves for the remaining 21 months?

Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

#38
It's great to hear discussion around Umair's thought patterns that add even more depth...

I think what he was trying to say might be a little different from PG's interpretation...

Umair might have said, "every company that had the potential to be economically revolutionary over the last five years sold out [to an acquirer devoid of strategic imagination or the capabilities to discontinuously continue their trajectory]," ergo ending the disruption gravy train.

That is, it's not necessarily "selling out" that blows things up; it's selling out to companies only driven to "increase market share", etc.

Or something like that.

I also think it is really interesting how your view of how the GOOG acquisition/IPO story played out vs. Umair's version:

"If all Larry, Sergey, and Google's investors had wanted to do was to sell out fast to the highest bidder, they could have done so at any time. But they didn't: they chose to revolutionize something that sucked - and so a tsunami of new value was unlocked."

That clearly doesn't square with how you saw it (even though it's an inspiring revision). I unfortunately lost my copy of Battelle's book before I got this far in the story, otherwise I would weigh in.

Clearly PG, Fred, Umair, and other smart ones agree on the need for more, smaller risks and purposeful management.

At any rate, whoever these "new investors" are that are going to fill the void between bottstrapping at Series A are going to make a FORTUNE. And they can't show up soon enough!

Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

#39
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're wrong. We care mostly about the founders. And we have funded projects so ambitious that they've taken 2 years to build.

I'm curious: Where does the $15k number fit into that? At one point it was explained as "this should be enough money for you to live off for three months" -- if you're funding groups which take 2 years to launch, how are they supporting themselves for the remaining 21 months?

you'd figure they can get more money (from angels/vc's) before they launch if what they've got so far is impressive.

Re: Why There Aren't More Googles

#40
The article makes some good points on the effects of funding on startup success, but it doesn't mention one the "other" reasons there aren't more Googles (or Microsofts, or Ebays): huge markets that startups can disrupt so successfully are rare. Facebook, for example, which is probably the biggest startup success story since Google, could be doing everything right but it may never be as big as Google because it's playing in a smaller market.
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