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FCC report finds almost no broadband competition at 100Mbps speeds

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Re: FCC report finds almost no broadband competition at 100Mbps speeds

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It's not broadband for me, it's monthly data caps. I can stream 4 different netflix shows, on 50Mbps, and blow through 1TB monthly cap in 3 weeks. No point of getting even faster connection.

Where in the world do you live that you still have data caps?

Cox Communications added a 1TB cap on all service tiers, including gigabit, four months ago here in Arizona.

It's $10 per 50 gb beyond that, or $50 for supposedly unlimited that I used to get in the base price.

Re: FCC report finds almost no broadband competition at 100Mbps speeds

#82

It's not broadband for me, it's monthly data caps. I can stream 4 different netflix shows, on 50Mbps, and blow through 1TB monthly cap in 3 weeks. No point of getting even faster connection.

Where in the world do you live that you still have data caps?

Atlanta, GA. Comcast cable. I’m in the neighborhood for Google Fiber but I highly doubt they will finish the roll out. In the meantime, ATT has deployed lots of fiber in the area but they are slow to activate each street.

Re: FCC report finds almost no broadband competition at 100Mbps speeds

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For those in the east bay, Bay area, looking for another provider, keep an eye on this one: https://www.lmi.net/services/internet/phiber/ They claim 50$/mo (60 after first year) for speeds up to 1 GB/sec. But, its not available yet, but will be sometime in 2018, they say. Here's another one, I'm looking into: https://common.net/ unfortunately, alot of these aren't ready yet in my area

sonic.net is also doing gigabit in the bay area, including expanding to the east bay. We have it at my home in San Francisco and it's been rock solid so far. It was slated for December 2017 but we got it even earlier, in October.

IIRC LMI resells Sonic (at least for DSL, not sure about fiber).

Re: FCC report finds almost no broadband competition at 100Mbps speeds

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I used to ask why anyone would ever need 100 Mbps, until I got 100 Mbps. Then I said the same about gigabit, until I got gigabit. Now I've moved from New Zealand, with its amazing internet infrastructure, to Australia, where I'm lucky to get 10 Mbps, and it keeps dropping out. I couldn't even download a folder from Dropbox last night because my connection was too slow and flaky. It should be the priority for governme…

I think this is one of the more interesting advantages that smaller countries have over bigger countries in the digital era.

Easier to dig trenches across and entire island and get everyone on fiber early.

Re: FCC report finds almost no broadband competition at 100Mbps speeds

#86
What is happening to hacker news? It's no longer about js frameworks and most comments are well informed and well reasoned and not just I know more than you do from the past

Is this because smart people have migrated from reddit due to the political propaganda? Are their any public visitor stats ?

Re: FCC report finds almost no broadband competition at 100Mbps speeds

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I ball parked it conservatively. I thought netflix streams took more like 7.5mbps. So I bet they could probably get away with less. I bet a 4 person household will have less than 3 streams almost always. So that's 10mpbs. You'd need some room for surfing, updates, downloads, etc. I bet 15mpbs is fairly usable for a family of 4. Not to be an old man, but back in my day, we had one PC that everyone shared. And it had a…

Yea, certainly wasn't trying to call you out or anything :) And yes, I remember when there was only one or two TVs in the house. Then there was 56k, where only one person could be online, and it took up the phone line. That's not to say we shouldn't strive to greatness, but it's amazing how far we've come. Which leads to another line of thinking: If a family does only have a 5mbps connection, and is thus forced to sh…

I think streaming VR and peer-to-peer HD video are probably the big bandwidth hogs on the horizon.

Looking back at history, I'd say we've lived in alternating periods of bandwidth But the definer has always been content. Jpegs to gifs to digital photographs to music to video to high-def streaming video.

If there's no content, there's no need for more bandwidth. If the content exists, people will want the bandwidth.

Re: FCC report finds almost no broadband competition at 100Mbps speeds

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> I used to ask why anyone would ever need 100 Mbps, until I got 100 Mbps. Then I said the same about gigabit, until I got gigabit. I wish more technologists who have become tolerant of stagnation in technology would remember that. A great deal of modern computing feels "good enough" when given only superficial thought. But replaced by something truly improved, the old rightfully feels outdated and decidedly inadequa…

People forget that when you get a tool (like an internet connection) that is orders of magnitude more powerful (10mb vs 100 or 100 vs 1000), you don't get to do the same things you used to 10 times better/faster. You get to do completely different things. 56k connections used to be fine when web pages were static text. 1mb connections were fine when the pinnacle of multimedia was MP3s. Netflix in 4k HDR was not even…

Speed of light makes gaming hard to do remotely without building datacenters every 100 miles.

Other than that, the part of the computer you touch is heading towards a hybrid dumb terminal, where the terminal has plenty of local compute to keep the UI snappy, offloads the tricky compute and any long term storage.

Re: FCC report finds almost no broadband competition at 100Mbps speeds

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I am currently out in the sticks in the U.S. near a major interstate highway. I have one option for wired internet which is DSL. The max speed is 5Mbps down and 0.5Mbps up. I have a choice between 2 wireless companies that will gladly lock me into a 2 year contract at ~$100 a month with a bandwidth cap of 200-300 GB a month. I have asked around and it has been this way for ~10 years and the local ISP has no intention of an infrastructure upgrade. I check the broadbandnow website every month and there are no new options. This is the free market most of the people living in rural America deal with. I previously lived in a major city and had 100Mbps down and 30Mbps up with no data caps.

Now think about how slow that is. I have to wait for Youtube to buffer up and Netflix/Hulu were so unusable I canceled my service. Watching anything live only works at the lowest possible resolution. VOIP is completely unreliable and gaming is spotty at best. The last time I had internet options this slow was the end of the 90s. Using census data there are 10,000+s of people out here dealing with this garbage level service.

The U.S. government defines broadband as 25Mbps down and 3Mbps upload at a minimum. I currently do not have broadband internet.

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