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Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Re: Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Post by rangersanger »

debaserab2 wrote: post #219
oneshot908 wrote: post #117

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All true, but the Eternal September for me came when I lost control of my feed to arbitrary ML algorithms attempting to maximize shareholder value whilst alienating the fewest users. I think someone could recreate early FB on the blockchain and take a huge chunk of interesting people off of the two current awful choices. Because I do remember the time when it was fun to reconnect with people and follow their lives th…

> I think someone could recreate early FB on the blockchain wtf does this mean? I'm asking only because this sounds exactly as loaded and buzzwordy as "I lost control of my feed to arbitrary ML algorithms attempting to maximize shareholder value whilst alienating the fewest users" you've just gone the opposite direction with the hyperbole.

It means I would like "liking" a post of grumpy cat to use as much energy as a Toyota Carola driving from Miami to Washington DC. Luckily, actually posting grumpy cat photos causes brownouts, so there are none to like.

Re: Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Post by traek »

RodgerTheGreat wrote: post #121
thestepafter wrote: post #54

I signed up for Facebook recently after deleting my account 9 years ago. I was banned within 30 minutes after updating my work history and a profile photo. Submitted an appeal with my drivers license and passport. Unbanned in a couple hours. Kept building my profile over the next couple days and was banned 3 more times. Submitted appeals each time with all the requested information. Nothing malicious, political, or s…

Sounds like facebook has a pretty effective scam for getting people to give them driver's licenses, passports and untold other treasure troves of personal information.

In what sense do you think a driver’s license is a “treasure trove of personal information”? Especially information which FB does not already have from other sources?

Re: Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Post by mschuster91 »

freehunter wrote: post #143
mschuster91 wrote: post #128

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> I don't yet have that feeling about snapchat, though the new design is annoying. I tried to try it out but even on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 when it came out it was unbearably slow and even not using the camera drained the battery (IIRC it is/was because Snapchat kept the camera on during the time the app was open in order to avoid the 1-2s lag of camera setup). I can't understand why and how kids and young people lik…

>I can't understand why and how kids and young people like it so much. That. That right there is why they like it so much. Because you're not on it. Their parents and grandparents are on Facebook, but those parents and grandparents can't figure out how to use Snapchat or don't see why kids like it, and that is exactly why kids like it. It's the "adults can't see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch" or "Trix is for ki…

I'd get that point if the users were 14 years old. But hell adults use it, movie stars and other celebrities - no matter if the app is dumb and buggy as hell... I wonder if Snapchat usage in over-16-year-olds could be a sign of a dumbing down populace.

Re: Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Post by spookthesunset »

stanleydrew wrote: post #212
oneshot908 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All true, but the Eternal September for me came when I lost control of my feed to arbitrary ML algorithms attempting to maximize shareholder value whilst alienating the fewest users. I think someone could recreate early FB on the blockchain and take a huge chunk of interesting people off of the two current awful choices. Because I do remember the time when it was fun to reconnect with people and follow their lives th…

on the blockchain Why? Everything else you wrote makes sense to me except for this.

> Why?

Shysters gotta shyst. After all, somebody has to buy those heavy bags...

Re: Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Post by tim333 »

padobson wrote: post #38

Whenever I see a post like this on HN, I see the inevitable "the product sucks" posts in the comments. As an engineer and social media user, I completely agree, but it doesn't seem to be bearing out in the marketplace. Facebook continues to grow[0] (if more slowly). So what is the HN audience to Facebook? Our we taste makers? A demographic ahead of the product curve, predictive of Facebook's imminent decline? Or are…

I'm slightly puzzled by the degree of negativity to facebook for example as I quite like it. My theory is HN folk analyse things more deeply than the public and worry about stuff. For me facebook is something where I can post some pics and see some friends and message them and that's about it.

Re: Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Post by tim333 »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #135
RobAtticus wrote: post #129

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>Look beyond those selective statistics, FB.com is dead. That's a bit of a strange conclusion when their financials show increasing revenue and increasing profit, quarter over quarter and year over year. From 2016 to 2017 their revenue grew almost 50% as did their Net Income[0]. It's not all roses of course, but it's hardly dead. [0] https://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AFB&fstype=ii&a...

They are squeezing every last drop out of their userbase, but the numbers do not lie. Decreasing DAU/MAU in their most profitable demographics means that their revenue numbers will eventually suffer.

You sure the under 25s are the most profitable demographic? Us over 25s often have more cash to spend.

Re: Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Post by whataretensors »

rangersanger wrote: post #281
debaserab2 wrote: post #219

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> I think someone could recreate early FB on the blockchain wtf does this mean? I'm asking only because this sounds exactly as loaded and buzzwordy as "I lost control of my feed to arbitrary ML algorithms attempting to maximize shareholder value whilst alienating the fewest users" you've just gone the opposite direction with the hyperbole.

It means I would like "liking" a post of grumpy cat to use as much energy as a Toyota Carola driving from Miami to Washington DC. Luckily, actually posting grumpy cat photos causes brownouts, so there are none to like.

Hyperbole. Modern blockchains do not use much energy. This is an obvious great idea waiting for implementation.

Re: Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Post by Jonovono »

dmix wrote: post #268
driverdan wrote: post #236

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Instagram is so frustrating. I want to see all the stuff in my feed but they actively make it hard to do so. All I want is a complete chronological feed of media. No terrible sorting algo, no held back stuff to show me later, no suggestions.

I don't know why Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook, etc can't have a simple toggle between chronological and the default algorithmic feed... I've seen everyone complain about this for years online and it seems like such a simple problem to solve. Much like searching for Tweets, Twitter provides a "New" vs "Top" filter which does that same... It has nothing to do with advertising as both views can include ads.

Same reason Netflix doesn't let you list all the movies on their site in alphabetical order - they want to create the sense that there is unlimited content. If every time you opened Instagram and there was no new content and you saw the same picture you saw last time you would just close the app. Now you never really know if there is no new content or not so you scroll down... and down...

Re: Facebook lost around 2.8M U.S. users under 25 last year

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Post by whataretensors »

sosuke wrote: post #239
whataretensors wrote: post #147

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Same thing. Removed my facebook now I'm looking for a cryptocurrency backed one that rewards people for contributions.

Maybe like https://steemit.com/ ?

steemit is great, I want something similar but just a social graph to keep up with friends
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