The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017) • Hacker News Board

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by dasil003 » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:02 PM UTC

jjeaff wrote: post #8

monksy wrote: post #3

Putting Kodi under "Streaming Piracy" is pretty inflamitory. Kodi isn't there to enable streaming piracy. (There are non-offical plugins that do that, but they've made many announcements about Kodi's stance on Piracy)

But let's be honest, 99.99% of Kodi and Plex use is purely for pirated content. Otherwise, I'm not sure where everyone is getting all these non DRM digital downloads. And most aren't using special plugins with Kodi, they just use Kodi to play their content they get from torrents and Usenet.

Ripping physical media for personal use is not piracy despite what the MPAA would have you believe.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by AznHisoka » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:09 PM UTC

blt wrote: post #9

Saving movies to disk doesn't make much sense. The files are huge, and rewatching is not that common. BitTorrent is great for music, sadly we lost what.cd to law enforcement.

The majority of people use Bittorrent to download movies/shows to watch once, and only once.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by nfRfqX5n » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:09 PM UTC

more interested in seeing what the younger demographic is doing. the legal alternatives are good, but with monthly services being offered by everything and everyone, i wonder if there will be some eventual pullback

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by rhino369 » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:10 PM UTC

dasil003 wrote: post #11

jjeaff wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But let's be honest, 99.99% of Kodi and Plex use is purely for pirated content. Otherwise, I'm not sure where everyone is getting all these non DRM digital downloads. And most aren't using special plugins with Kodi, they just use Kodi to play their content they get from torrents and Usenet.

Ripping physical media for personal use is not piracy despite what the MPAA would have you believe.

Yea but who goes through the trouble of ripping blu-rays to put them on plex?

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by beart » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:10 PM UTC

jjeaff wrote: post #8

monksy wrote: post #3

Putting Kodi under "Streaming Piracy" is pretty inflamitory. Kodi isn't there to enable streaming piracy. (There are non-offical plugins that do that, but they've made many announcements about Kodi's stance on Piracy)

But let's be honest, 99.99% of Kodi and Plex use is purely for pirated content. Otherwise, I'm not sure where everyone is getting all these non DRM digital downloads. And most aren't using special plugins with Kodi, they just use Kodi to play their content they get from torrents and Usenet.

I'm not sure how you can claim honesty and then immediately pull that statistic out of thin air.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by bdz » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:12 PM UTC

At least where I live, Hungary, torrenting was decriminalized some years ago as long as someone isn't doing it for profit. It's still illegal but they stopped going after end users. The biggest private tracker has 770k users atm with an exceptional 1452% seed to leech ratio. Basically almost everyone (ie daily internet users) is using it in the country.

Also they introduced a "blank media" tax on everything (CD, DVD, SSD, HDD, USB flash drive etc.) as a compensation for the presumed losses.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by metalliqaz » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:13 PM UTC

rhino369 wrote: post #14

dasil003 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ripping physical media for personal use is not piracy despite what the MPAA would have you believe.

Yea but who goes through the trouble of ripping blu-rays to put them on plex?

My home setup is entirely digital. Just a Shield Android TV attached to the back of a TV. I don't have any spinning disc players anymore. All discs are ripped, put on my NAS, and served with Plex.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by saw-lau » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:14 PM UTC

rhino369 wrote: post #14

dasil003 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ripping physical media for personal use is not piracy despite what the MPAA would have you believe.

Yea but who goes through the trouble of ripping blu-rays to put them on plex?

(Well, added to my iTunes library, actually, but - you know.)

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by Robotbeat » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:15 PM UTC

asymmetric wrote: post #6

Seems to be down. Their CDN (distil[0]), which bills itself as a "Bot mitigation" company, shows a CAPTCHA to the Wayback Machine archiver[1], effectively making it useless. [0]: https://www.distilnetworks.com/ [1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20180212161645/https://www.plagi...

Yeah, it's almost like they should use some sort of peer-to-peer distribution system to allow scalable distribution of their content...

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by sp332 » Mon, Feb 12, 2018, 5:17 PM UTC

monksy wrote: post #3

Putting Kodi under "Streaming Piracy" is pretty inflamitory. Kodi isn't there to enable streaming piracy. (There are non-offical plugins that do that, but they've made many announcements about Kodi's stance on Piracy)

Yup, a lot of piracy-oriented products use Kodi e.g. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/five-suspects-ar... But putting Kodi itself on the list is like putting Xerox on a list of elementary-school textbook piracy companies.