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Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

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Post by erikpukinskis » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 6:12 PM UTC

always_good wrote: post #21

wppick wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Data is not the whole picture. Maybe more protein is great for adding muscle mass, and bad for a different reason... The article lists beef as it's first source of protein besides protein shakes. Beef is a class 2A carcinogen. I stopped reading there.

"On the other hand, any form of protein is likely to be effective, it concludes, not merely high-protein shakes and supplements. Beef, chicken, yogurt and even protein from peas or quinoa could help us to build larger and stronger muscles." That's really the part you took issue with? That's a list of protein examples, not "it's first source of protein." It even says "any form of protein is likely to be effective." Fa…

Was your OP outraged?

Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

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Post by r0brodz » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 10:14 PM UTC

milesvp wrote: post #6

r0brodz wrote: post #4

The benefits of protein are historically documented by all the great bodybuilders. Nothing new here. Mainstream is always behind the freaks who dare to go against "science".

Which is amusing, because in this context the bodybuilders are fundamentally doing science. They have experiments (aka, exercise and eating regiments) that, as I understand it, are repeatable, and consistently produce the desired outcome, at least in terms of sculpted muscle and body fat.

Science said "Too much protein, i.e 1g/lb of body weight, was bad for your kidneys". That's what I meant by against science.

Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

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Post by racer-v » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 12:23 AM UTC

erikpukinskis wrote: post #89

racer-v wrote: post #64

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Plant sources tend to have a higher ratio of calories to protein, so it's tough if you're limiting calories. Chickpeas, eggplant, and tahini all have protein; Trader Joe's Eggplant Hummus has all three, but somehow manages to claim a lower calorie-to-protein ratio than any of its ingredients (not sure how that can work). Mushrooms are good too. Also seitan if you don't mind something a little more "processed".

> somehow manages to claim a lower calorie-to-protein ratio than any of its ingredients Hummus usually has more oil added on top of the tahini. And chickpeas are the main ingredient and they have a lot of starch on top of the protein.

Right, that's why I find their nutritional claim hard to believe: 2g protein per 35 KCal is better than tahini, eggplant, or chickpea individually.

Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

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Post by shdwban » Sun, Feb 11, 2018, 3:53 AM UTC

lemming wrote: post #79

shdwban wrote: post #54

What would be a natural way to find if you're taking enough protein? If my sleep patterns, digestion, stomach, bowel movement, muscular recovery are fine, am I taking enough protein in accordance with my workout regimen? Or could it be that I may be absolutely fine but still taking less protein than the one my workout requires and hence building up less? Edit: by natural I mean without using scales, going just by how…

From: https://examine.com/nutrition/how-much-protein-can-i-eat-in-... That being said, since fecal losses of protein and short-chain peptides tend to smell incredibly bad one can use a 'sniff-test' after bowel movements to assess if protein is being lost in the feces and thus not taken up by either the intestines or the muscle. Not pleasant, perhaps, but should be effective :-)

The link was unbelievably informative. Thank you.