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China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt

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Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt

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Post by joshuamorton »

yusee wrote: post #7

GMail still can't effectively distinguish between real communication and spam. If China overtakes the US in AI, Schmidt and co. are the folks to blame. They are in the drivers seat of intelligence development, yet their efforts are increasingly scattered, and their only consistent focus is on lobbying government. Dear Alphabet, Please make your products and services work before worrying about geopolitical balance of…

(While I work on Gmail, this is a curiosity)

What issues do you have with spam? Personally, I get maybe 1 false-positive spam email per year with Gmail, and maybe a few false-negatives (which are less of an issue anyway), for an accuracy rate in the 3-4 9s range. So I'm intrigued as to what you're doing or where you encounter the inability for gmail to distinguish between real communication and spam.

Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

rayiner wrote: post #27

Fun fact: China’s GDP per capita growth over the last 25 years is only modestly more than Japan’s GDP per capita growth from 1970-1995 (20.5x versus 24.5x).

I wonder how China would cope with a long period of economic stagnation like Japan has had without the democratic release valve of being able to vote in another party. I wouldn't be surprised to see it all unravel.

Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt

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Post by d0100 »

WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #6

China's will to move forward is astonishingly great. Remember that in the 70's it was close to a 3rd world nation. In less than 50 years it's challenging the US in technology. Sure a big part of that has been just copying what we already know in terms of technology but I see no slowing down from their part. To become a master at anything 1st you copy and try to match the master once you have matched the master you mo…

> China's will to move forward, at the expense of countless bodies, is astonishingly great

FTFY

Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt

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Post by krutzger »

joshuamorton wrote: post #31
yusee wrote: post #7

GMail still can't effectively distinguish between real communication and spam. If China overtakes the US in AI, Schmidt and co. are the folks to blame. They are in the drivers seat of intelligence development, yet their efforts are increasingly scattered, and their only consistent focus is on lobbying government. Dear Alphabet, Please make your products and services work before worrying about geopolitical balance of…

(While I work on Gmail, this is a curiosity) What issues do you have with spam? Personally, I get maybe 1 false-positive spam email per year with Gmail, and maybe a few false-negatives (which are less of an issue anyway), for an accuracy rate in the 3-4 9s range. So I'm intrigued as to what you're doing or where you encounter the inability for gmail to distinguish between real communication and spam.

Maybe Gmail was a has example. How about the Google play store?

Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt

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Post by joshuamorton »

krutzger wrote: post #34
joshuamorton wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(While I work on Gmail, this is a curiosity) What issues do you have with spam? Personally, I get maybe 1 false-positive spam email per year with Gmail, and maybe a few false-negatives (which are less of an issue anyway), for an accuracy rate in the 3-4 9s range. So I'm intrigued as to what you're doing or where you encounter the inability for gmail to distinguish between real communication and spam.

Maybe Gmail was a has example. How about the Google play store?

I interact with the play store relatively infrequently, so I don't know what you mean. Would you mind elaborating?

Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt

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Post by kore »

The Chinese government's R&D initiatives are what's making the difference here. They've further laid out specific goals for particular technologies such as automated vehicles, drones, medical diagnosis, and machine translation, and their rate of R&D spend is on pace to overtake the US in the coming years.

For all its faults, their leadership has their eyes properly set on science and technology as a means to challenge the US economically and militarily. They're incentivizing the proper areas where they want industry to operate, and are better poised to take advantage of it. The US government is hampered by dysfunction in comparison.

Would hope the US sees what's at risk here, and moves from underestimating the threat, to overestimating it and taking massive action as they often do.

Better summary here: https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/coming-tech-war-china

Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt

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Post by [deleted] »

yusee wrote: post #7

GMail still can't effectively distinguish between real communication and spam. If China overtakes the US in AI, Schmidt and co. are the folks to blame. They are in the drivers seat of intelligence development, yet their efforts are increasingly scattered, and their only consistent focus is on lobbying government. Dear Alphabet, Please make your products and services work before worrying about geopolitical balance of…

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Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt

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Post by fooker »

pedrosorio wrote: post #5

"Schmidt provided examples to support his claim that China is poised to dominate the field of AI. While many assume that the Chinese educational system is inferior to the U.S., he pointed out that Chinese people "tend to win many of the top spots" in Google's coding competitions." In the last 5 years, participants from China reached the Google Code Jam finals (top 25 contestants) 12 times. Russian participants did th…

This is evidence that the Chinese education system is not inferior. Nothing more.

The argument about AI lead is based on other facts, not particularly this one.

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