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AI Will Not Be Taking Away Code Jobs Anytime Soon

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Re: AI Will Not Be Taking Away Code Jobs Anytime Soon

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Turing reportedly believed that programming would require “a great number of mathematicians of ability”. I think if you want to find a trend in computing, it's the same as the progression in other industries. Tooling replaces raw ability, technique replaces skill, and jobs requiring skills are slowly replaced by jobs that don't require skills. Consider Go, for instance. There's no doubt that the opinionated, overly-c…

> designed so that a mediocre programmer can produce passable code That's a little unfair, if accurate. Even the best of us are mediocre programmers when fixing a bug in the middle of the night or diving into a new code base. You might as well say (and some do) that Haskell is for mediocre programmers because good programmers don't make type mistakes. > a compiler that tells them off for not properly commenting their…

I'm actually kind of embarassed by how innacurate my post was, but I can't edit it with corrections.

Re: AI Will Not Be Taking Away Code Jobs Anytime Soon

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> No AI can decide _what_ to build Honestly, programmers don't decide either. We build what we are told to build. > Could it be made better? Of course! Most of it is terrible. There's an infinite amount of work to be done. Of course, if our objective it to achieve perfection, then there will always be more things to do because we can never achieve perfection. But most of the time "good enough" is good enough. But I a…

Judging by how impacted CS programs are at colleges, and how hard working the interns I have been seeing come through my company lately, wages may be stalling sooner than you think. Like many other skilled occupations in this country the future is probably going to be very highly paid elite workers and masses of low paid people who are just "good". Kind of inevitable in a capitalist society where human labor is losin…

I don't know how "impacted" CS programs are and I don't know how hard working your interns are, so I can't make out what you mean in the first sentence.

Re: AI Will Not Be Taking Away Code Jobs Anytime Soon

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> No AI can decide _what_ to build Honestly, programmers don't decide either. We build what we are told to build. > Could it be made better? Of course! Most of it is terrible. There's an infinite amount of work to be done. Of course, if our objective it to achieve perfection, then there will always be more things to do because we can never achieve perfection. But most of the time "good enough" is good enough. But I a…

Judging by how impacted CS programs are at colleges, and how hard working the interns I have been seeing come through my company lately, wages may be stalling sooner than you think. Like many other skilled occupations in this country the future is probably going to be very highly paid elite workers and masses of low paid people who are just "good". Kind of inevitable in a capitalist society where human labor is losin…

A massive increase in programming labor physically won’t fit in the Bay Area’s housing stock, and the industry already could have slashed costs anytime it wanted by hiring in the Midwest and South.

Re: AI Will Not Be Taking Away Code Jobs Anytime Soon

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I don't believe this to be true. We've seen quite a few technologies, which promised to "let anyone code", without any real success, whereas to "let AI code" is even harder than letting your boss. At the very least, I expect we'd need another 2 or 3 major, paradigm-shifting, breakthroughs to get computers sophisticated enough to program themselves, which is still 50-60 years away. I mean, that's my gut feeling; we'll…

I think that we can do a lot more with a lot less programmer hours today. React native is a good example. We have just finished rebuilding our app with maybe one third the time and cost of our two native apps. This is of course offset by the overall huge growth in demand for all kinds of software. But if that demand curve ever flattens out, then I think we could definitely see a reduction in the need for programmers.

This exactly. I always think of this xkcd comic

https://xkcd.com/1205/

If AI makes all those targets achievable, the number of projects which will get wired up will be astronomical - but finite.

Re: AI Will Not Be Taking Away Code Jobs Anytime Soon

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No, but combine cloud APIs, AI, and market consolidation and you will indeed see a reduction in the demand for code. I write much less code than I did ten years ago. I spend more time integrating others' code now than I do writing my own. In ten years most industrial coders will probably be down to a hundred or so lines of new production code a year...it will be the DATA arcitects who are calling the architecture sho…

why are all your comments grey? have you been shadow banned?
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