China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
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China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
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Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
#2i read the research. chinese contributions are amazing but it’s a world wide phenomena
Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
#3It's hard to say how much is this about scaring the government into action (AI-McCarthyism), or about being jealous that China is not constrained like Western countries are when experimenting with AI because of ingrained in society respect towards privacy, human rights, having to listen to the public opinion (democracy), etc.
In another HN thread about AI, big corporations and China, someone mentioned that big American IT corporations are very active in China, offering their tech for pennies just to be able to test it on a wider scale, because in the West they can't do it (regulations, human rights, etc.).
There are many problems unsolved, where a lot of grunt work is needed and little progress has been made in the last decades - healthcare is expensive, many diseases are still uncurable, production is still cheaper to outsource to other countries than do it locally because automation (not just AI, also sensors, computing power, materials, etc.) are not there yet.
I think the general trend to see current AI iteration as the magical solutions to all problems is dangerous, as usual the reality is much more complex and should be tackled in a more thorough manner. Why not pay AI-specialist pay to get the best people into healthcare, new material research, etc?
Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
#4It's hard to say how much is this about scaring the government into action (AI-McCarthyism), or about being jealous that China is not constrained like Western countries are when experimenting with AI because of ingrained in society respect towards privacy, human rights, having to listen to the public opinion (democracy), etc. In another HN thread about AI, big corporations and China, someone mentioned that big Americ…
Ya, it sounds like a scare tactic. China does have advantages, mainly, they have lots of data with less concern for privacy.
The Chinese are making huge bets on AI, but they are beginning to sound like Japan in the 1980s with their Fifth generation computing project. Actually, there are so many analogues of China today to Japan in the 1980s (huge housing bubble, booming economy that doesn't seem to stop, a huge bet on AI....) that it doesn't really seem like a coincidence.
Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
#5"Schmidt provided examples to support his claim that China is poised to dominate the field of AI. While many assume that the Chinese educational system is inferior to the U.S., he pointed out that Chinese people "tend to win many of the top spots" in Google's coding competitions."
In the last 5 years, participants from China reached the Google Code Jam finals (top 25 contestants) 12 times. Russian participants did the same 40 times (notably last year there were 13 Russian contestants, half of the finalists).
If this is evidence that China is going to dominate AI, what does it say about Russia?
Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
#6China's will to move forward is astonishingly great. Remember that in the 70's it was close to a 3rd world nation. In less than 50 years it's challenging the US in technology. Sure a big part of that has been just copying what we already know in terms of technology but I see no slowing down from their part. To become a master at anything 1st you copy and try to match the master once you have matched the master you move past it. China is close to matching the master and they're not slowing down. Eric Smith is just reporting on what he sees as an inevitable outcome.
Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
#7GMail still can't effectively distinguish between real communication and spam. If China overtakes the US in AI, Schmidt and co. are the folks to blame. They are in the drivers seat of intelligence development, yet their efforts are increasingly scattered, and their only consistent focus is on lobbying government.
Dear Alphabet,
Please make your products and services work before worrying about geopolitical balance of power.
Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
#8This is the same as making government issues partisan to develop some sort of race and opposition.
China already does the vast majority of manufacturing technology. It doesn't really matter what country does it. In the end, it will just be a smaller amount of money going to US businesses. Better ai has many applications but personal robot butlers and such have a while.
Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
#9Yet another US tech billionaire practically fetishizing China for their devotion to technology over people...
Sure, I can certainly get behind greater funding for scientific research and education for our benefit, but China is certainly not a country I would like to emulate whatsoever.
My biggest question is, what is the meaning and implication of China "dominating" the AI industries? China overtaking the US in military and commercial might? This honestly seems unlikely.
And a follow up question is, besides government funding, what else is China doing to secure AI dominance? Putting human rights and regulations on the back burner would appear give them a competitive advantage - but is this worth the cost of privacy and freedom for the average citizen?
'"Shockingly some of the best people are in countries we won't let into America,' he said. "Iran produces some of the smartest and top computer scientists in the world. I want them here. I want them working for Alphabet and Google. It's crazy not to let these people in."'
Well now I am not following this logic at all. What is China doing to make working there more attractive? I would imagine the US looks a lot more attractive than China in terms of freedom and safety regulations.
If anyone has a copy of the AI report in English I would greatly appreciate it.
Re: China Will Overtake the US in AI, said Alphabet's Eric Schmidt
#10China's GDP outgrows the west's by 5-10 percentage points pr. year. This means that in about 10 years China's economy in size will be twice that of the US.
That means China will dominate in most engineering fields. Also some where the US today is an absolute leader.