Apparently these results confirm Price' square root law.
A small fraction of the population does most things, regardless of the subject in question.
Search youtube for Jordan Peterson on this topic.
26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent crime conviction (2014)
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#132I'd love to hear whether 1% account for all white collar crime.
But Willie Horton terrifies people in a way that Bernie Madoff does not, so I expect that "tough on crime" will continue to exclude white collar crime.
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#133Studies like this are hard, because they're usually labeled 'racist', or it turns into an ad hominem attack on the authors, or struck down in the media for singling out some minority group. I love the wording as it has a focus on the positive; summed up it basically says: we can't help those who we can't identity.
> Studies like this are hard, because they're usually labeled 'racist', or it turns into an ad hominem attack on the authors, or struck down in the media for singling out some minority group. I think you’re confusing studies with conclusions. What you’re describing doesn’t happen but what is common are studies finding a correlation which leads to someone claiming causation and then complaining when they’re criticized…
Also people often make an unfounded extrapolation from arrest or conviction stats to crimes committed. We can accurately measure arrests or convictions fairly easily so we frequently have statistics for those, but it is very hard to accurately measure who is committing crimes. People often like to assume that there is a direct correspondence between arrests/convictions and crimes committed, but that is an unjustified assumption.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not true, and this is precisely what I find troubling -- that you misunderstand them and miss the actual problem they point out. Obviously, I can't vouch for everyone , but since I haven't seen any behavior of the kind you refer to (certainly not among more-or-less mainstream figure), I can safely assume it's not done by "lots of people".
Do we need to start linking famous peoples tweets to show that your position is false? Plenty of people jump on the “that’s racism” bandwagon. If they can’t attack the math they attack the author and make wild accusations about their intent. Truth is treason in an empire of lies, and socially most would rather live with comfortable lies.
Very true. Ben Affleck on Real Time was a perfect example of this.
He literally equated challenging bad ideas with racism.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Typically it's the accusers of racism who make these conflagrations. These are usually well-intentioned progressives who, in their zeal to protect minorities, pounce on anything that could possibly be warped into an attack on minorities. For example, that time James Damore was crucified for suggesting that population level gender differences might better explain Google's hiring pipeline than discrimination.
You’re clearly not suggesting that the US is 80% male. Once you create a subset that fits your criteria it gets a little silly doesn’t it?
OP said "Google", not the "US". What's "silly" about thinking males are the majority at Google?
Re: 26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent crime conviction (2014)
#136At least among the Swedish population, but Id guess likely to similar in other places: >The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality. Very interesting, so if you get past your teens without criminality you seem to not become a cri…
'...so if you get past your teens without criminality you seem to not become a criminal' 'Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man' There is a lot of truth in this. When I think back to my childhood there were always a few kids who were just bad. They came from the same background, had the same advantages, and so on but there was still something evil about them. Typical behaviours included stuff like…
It can be surprising though, I recall one of my children's school friends who although he was never very academic was always mild mannered and well behaved with us, there were other children in the school who were a much bigger problem. He is now in prison for murdering his girlfriend.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or, more simply, you could incarcerate repeat offenders for longer periods of time.
That would work but incarceration is an unscalable solution. Some CA stats: - $71k/person/year - 130,000 inmates - 135% of capacity - highest rate of incarceration in the world We're maxed out - and all this doesn't even solve the root issues of mental illness and poverty. We need alternative ideas with better ROI.
Sure. But what are these alternatives? 1% of the population are psychopaths and no one knows how to make them not be so. What else can we do but put them away?
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_... Check out the list based on Alesina’s analysis. Or go to Sweden. In the younger population groups, muslims are now are huge minority.
That index lists Canada as more diverse than the US, which is definitely false having been to both. Online sources suggest about 30% of Stockholm is non-Swedish, and most of those people are European. New York and Chicago are only about 30-35% European descent, and that’s mixed between Irish, German, Swedish, English, etc.
English, German, Irish, swedish descent = Christian, white population, all speaking English as a first language, all from similar cultures.
It’s way more diverse in Sweden. I lived in NYC, and have travelled a lot in Sweden. Nowadays, large Swedish cities are much more diverse.
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#139A better title would be: 26% of violent crime convicts accountable for 63% of violent crime convictions.
In terms of the entire population, probably:
* 96% never convicted
* 3% convicted once
* 1% convicted as many times as the justice system allows until well into middle age (average of five times)
An interesting question is: How many of the 3% are released and take up normal life, and how many are not convicted again because their first offense was severe enough to warrant a long sentence? Edit: Unfortunately, the paper can't answer this question.
Re: 26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent crime conviction (2014)
#140At least among the Swedish population, but Id guess likely to similar in other places: >The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality. Very interesting, so if you get past your teens without criminality you seem to not become a cri…
'...so if you get past your teens without criminality you seem to not become a criminal' 'Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man' There is a lot of truth in this. When I think back to my childhood there were always a few kids who were just bad. They came from the same background, had the same advantages, and so on but there was still something evil about them. Typical behaviours included stuff like…
>They came from the same background, had the same advantages, and so on
Did they really though?
Thinking back to my childhood recently, I've come to almost exactly the opposite conclusion. There were some kids who I thought were just naturally shitty until I experienced enough of life to realize that they were the ones getting beaten up by their angry or alcoholic parents or being emotionally abused by a narcissistic family member.
These were all things that I saw the signs of going to their houses or at sports games, etc. as a kid, but it was so far outside of my frame of reference that I didn't understand the context for what was happening. That angry arm grab and wrench just because dad didn't like the choice of font on a book report? Not a sign of a healthy home life, especially if that was the way he behaved with an "outside observer" in the house.
It's all still anecdotal of course, with my small sample size and situation, but after going to a small school with the same ~25 kids (all from similar middle class households) for 9 years I can say that later success in life was strongly correlated to the ones that had supportive and non-traumatic home lives.