So %1 becomes new kind of Pareto rule. The %1 owns half of the world's wealth and this.
26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent crime conviction (2014)
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#22Studies like this are hard, because they're usually labeled 'racist', or it turns into an ad hominem attack on the authors, or struck down in the media for singling out some minority group. I love the wording as it has a focus on the positive; summed up it basically says: we can't help those who we can't identity.
> Persistence in violence was associated with male sex (OR 2.5), personality disorder (OR 2.3), violent crime conviction before age 19 (OR 2.0), drug-related offenses (OR 1.9), nonviolent criminality (OR 1.9), substance use disorder (OR 1.9), and major mental disorder (OR 1.3).
So you are confusing mental/behavior explanations with unscientific correlation-hunting racial explanations that are too popular in discourse.
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#23If I said I could identify a group of people who are responsible for all the horror in the world, you’d think think I was an idiot.
But there is one group who is responsible (although you never hear the group blamed for anything).
The group? Men.
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#24An interesting 20/80 rule going on here. The good news is if we can fix whatever issues affect this 1%, we solve 63% of violent crimes. Or maybe I'm naive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusion_matrix The challenge is to fix that 1%, without terrorizing the N% who look vaguely similar.
Are you implying that solving the issues affecting that 1% means jailing or terrorizing them, thus making such solutions undesirable for everyone else?
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#25Before anyone espouses their favorite theory, you should note this study covers Sweden from 1973-2004 which is a very ethnically and relatively-economically homogeneous country with a population of < 10M people.
What does ethnic homogeneity have to do with this?
Studies like these that take place in the USA are labeled racist because they disproportionately include minorities.
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#26They didn't analyze IQ?
Re: 26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent crime conviction (2014)
#27An interesting 20/80 rule going on here. The good news is if we can fix whatever issues affect this 1%, we solve 63% of violent crimes. Or maybe I'm naive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusion_matrix The challenge is to fix that 1%, without terrorizing the N% who look vaguely similar.
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Re: 26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent crime conviction (2014)
#28Humans consistently make the same mistake about understand the motivations, the inhibiting and promoting pressures of other people. We assume that everyone else is exactly like us. Therefore, when we build systems and institutions that attempt to alter behavior, we encode our own motivations and desires as the impetus. I.E. why we have UX researchers, do user testing, A/B testing etc when we develop products. Our ins…
Let me put it this way: the current “standard” criminal justice system is exceedingly effective at dissuading the sort of people who designed and operate the system from committing crime, but those folks are not the population that in fact commit crimes.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess it’s easier in Sweden which is not especially diverse. Also it’s worth noting that these are convictions so will be missing any unreported violence, or that police didn’t follow up on, or that got off on technicalities
Good point. Any similar studies from more diverse countries? This study is not as comprehensive but in 30-state USA study, 77% of prisoners are jailed again within 5 years of release: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/rprts05p0510pr.cfm
Not really surprising, you must consider that most of our jails and prisons are like criminal universities. Most barely offer any rehabilitation, if at all, but people can learn about how to be better criminals from other criminals.
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#30Studies like this are hard, because they're usually labeled 'racist', or it turns into an ad hominem attack on the authors, or struck down in the media for singling out some minority group. I love the wording as it has a focus on the positive; summed up it basically says: we can't help those who we can't identity.
This is why sex differences were reported and racial differences were not. It just leads to uncomfortable places, especially in the context of Swedish society.
Which is weird, especially if racial differences provided meaningful significance. By the politically-correct logic, I could claim that the study is “sexist” (which is obviously dumb.....)