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What's the difficulty of having your own web service sending out emails by itself for free?
Setting up your own email server and sending thousands of emails a day is unfortunately almost a sure way to get into everyone's spam folder.
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Beacause these types of services go to great effort to keep their repuation high on email services. You use these services so your 1000's emails get delivered instead of being rated as spam or being blacklisted.
My self-run mail server I set up before I had any sysadmin knowledge also has high reputation, isn’t on any blacklist, and successfully is rated non-spam by Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook and all others. Is there something special why you’d need to pay for a product such as mailgun, and not just something like the ISPmail guide suggests? Both for small bootstrapped projects, and for larger companies it should be cheaper to ju…
That is most definitely not the norm. Entire ISPs get blacklisted on a regular basis, working around that is difficult.
There are a lot of hurdles to hosting an email service, and some of them are geographic, and out of your immediate control.
If things are difficult... Why wouldn't you pay to make the hassles go away all together?
EDIT: similarly, does it support MMS in addition to SMS?
I love how simple this is, but does it support including email attachments? I couldn't determine that based on the content of the website. EDIT: similarly, does it support MMS in addition to SMS?
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It's basically 10x what Mailgun charges, which is pretty reasonable overhead imo. $10 to send 1,000 email notifications to your team is peanuts. People will 100% pay that.
Why would I pay to send an email?
Funny part is, that Google has all the best ML engineers working for them, yet they seem to be unable to check a mail for spam... They can teach a computer to play Go at superhuman level yet they are not able to check an E-Mail for the words Viagra and Cialis.
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> I know of no service that undercuts $0.10 per SMS to European countries unless you buy in huge bulks. Twilio looks to be under $0.10 for more than a few european countries I checked: https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/ch https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/de https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/es https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/se https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/fi https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/nl
Oh wow! Things got cheaper since last I checked, thanks!
Looks like plivo has some good rates too:
https://www.plivo.com/pricing/ES/#!sms https://www.plivo.com/pricing/FR/#!sms https://www.plivo.com/pricing/FI/#!sms https://www.plivo.com/pricing/SE/#!sms
The monthly cost of a number with plivo seems a bit higher, overall, but also looks like they have free incoming SMS, which may end up being a much better deal for some use cases.
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Why would I pay to send an email?
Because we live in a world where most people use large E-Mail services like Gmail. And those providers don't know how to filter spam from your inbox. So they decided to blacklist IPs and IP ranges (if they have bad reputation, which is a completely intransparent metric), so people are now forced to pay services like Sendgrid or Mailchimp to get their E-Mail in those mailboxes. Funny part is, that Google has all the b…
Found v=spf1 record for email.popcornnotify.com: v=spf1 include:sendgrid.net ~all
More specifically, SPF exists for a domain owner (in this case, popcornnotify.com) to specify who is authorized to send mail on behalf of the host email.popcornnotify.com. This is set in a DNS record and used by spam filters to prevent spoofing and such.
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Why would I pay to send an email?
Deliverability.
Although I truly think this is a fantastic product, both in the simplicity of the offering and the simplicity of the API, I was a little concerned about being able to use my own domain and phone number when sending messages, for the sake of building trust with my users. Also, I (selfishly, perhaps) have more faith in the reliability of an established service than something recently launched. For anyone who has simila…
Yeah, you are probably not the target market for this lovely hobby project. Email service reliability matters, and is a very difficult problem at scale. This is why my team has been working on a production-ready, enterprise version of a unified email API for about a year now, that's free for up to 100k messages/month, and has functionality that you couldn't easily build yourself, like auto-failover over multiple prov…