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PopcornNotify – Send simple emails and text messages from one API

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Re: PopcornNotify – Send simple emails and text messages from one API

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That pricing isn't too bad for SMS messages but it is VERY high for emails. Simplicity has value but I'm not sure it has that much value.

It's basically 10x what Mailgun charges, which is pretty reasonable overhead imo. $10 to send 1,000 email notifications to your team is peanuts. People will 100% pay that.

What's the difficulty of having your own web service sending out emails by itself for free?

Re: PopcornNotify – Send simple emails and text messages from one API

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's basically 10x what Mailgun charges, which is pretty reasonable overhead imo. $10 to send 1,000 email notifications to your team is peanuts. People will 100% pay that.

What's the difficulty of having your own web service sending out emails by itself for free?

Setting up your own email server and sending thousands of emails a day is unfortunately almost a sure way to get into everyone's spam folder.

Re: PopcornNotify – Send simple emails and text messages from one API

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post #31
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's basically 10x what Mailgun charges, which is pretty reasonable overhead imo. $10 to send 1,000 email notifications to your team is peanuts. People will 100% pay that.

What's the difficulty of having your own web service sending out emails by itself for free?

If you have to spin up a server and write the code it isn't anywhere close to free

Re: PopcornNotify – Send simple emails and text messages from one API

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I think this is a nice idea, but I'm worried about the, let's be honest, needless single point of failure this adds to my architecture. Nothing this does ought to be more than a 100 line open source project (which is not criticism btw - if you can monetize a tiny codebase, more power to you!). But because it's SaaS, you need to depend on someone else to keep their service up and running. Because of that simple reason…

You could implement your own so that at least you're in control of your single point of failure.

Re: PopcornNotify – Send simple emails and text messages from one API

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I think this is a nice idea, but I'm worried about the, let's be honest, needless single point of failure this adds to my architecture. Nothing this does ought to be more than a 100 line open source project (which is not criticism btw - if you can monetize a tiny codebase, more power to you!). But because it's SaaS, you need to depend on someone else to keep their service up and running. Because of that simple reason…

> I know of no service that undercuts $0.10 per SMS to European countries unless you buy in huge bulks.

Twilio looks to be under $0.10 for more than a few european countries I checked:

https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/ch https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/de https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/es https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/se https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/fi https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/nl

Re: PopcornNotify – Send simple emails and text messages from one API

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Although I truly think this is a fantastic product, both in the simplicity of the offering and the simplicity of the API, I was a little concerned about being able to use my own domain and phone number when sending messages, for the sake of building trust with my users. Also, I (selfishly, perhaps) have more faith in the reliability of an established service than something recently launched. For anyone who has simila…

Yeah, you are probably not the target market for this lovely hobby project. Email service reliability matters, and is a very difficult problem at scale. This is why my team has been working on a production-ready, enterprise version of a unified email API for about a year now, that's free for up to 100k messages/month, and has functionality that you couldn't easily build yourself, like auto-failover over multiple providers, full-text elasticsearch of your email history/logs, and a non-technical interface for your customer support team to easily view your recipients email history.

Send me a tweet @flutemail if you're interested, I'll let you know when it's ready (should be in about a month).

Re: PopcornNotify – Send simple emails and text messages from one API

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would I pay to send an email?

Beacause these types of services go to great effort to keep their repuation high on email services. You use these services so your 1000's emails get delivered instead of being rated as spam or being blacklisted.

My self-run mail server I set up before I had any sysadmin knowledge also has high reputation, isn’t on any blacklist, and successfully is rated non-spam by Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook and all others.

Is there something special why you’d need to pay for a product such as mailgun, and not just something like the ISPmail guide suggests?

Both for small bootstrapped projects, and for larger companies it should be cheaper to just run it yourself.

Re: PopcornNotify – Send simple emails and text messages from one API

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I think this is a nice idea, but I'm worried about the, let's be honest, needless single point of failure this adds to my architecture. Nothing this does ought to be more than a 100 line open source project (which is not criticism btw - if you can monetize a tiny codebase, more power to you!). But because it's SaaS, you need to depend on someone else to keep their service up and running. Because of that simple reason…

> I know of no service that undercuts $0.10 per SMS to European countries unless you buy in huge bulks. Twilio looks to be under $0.10 for more than a few european countries I checked: https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/ch https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/de https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/es https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/se https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/fi https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/nl

Oh wow! Things got cheaper since last I checked, thanks!
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