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If I give you 5 dollars is that a chemical addiction? Obviously not, but you believe gambling can be addictive right?
My point is, dopamine is addictive. Banning or controlling anything that releases dopamine is a futile effort.
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Too little too late on the Fam thing. My exit plan was well underway when they announced it. FB stopped being for emo in 2013ish last I cared, yet I'm still going through the emotionally taxing process of extracting my friendships from FB lately. Meanwhile new contacts see no mutual friends since I don't add new ones for the most part, so I am eager to be able to hit logical delete (aka deactivate, no full delete any…
> aka deactivate, no full delete anymore IIRC, you can still full-delete, but you have to find a the link through a help page, not your profile. I'm content to leave my profile up with a big reminder that I'm no longer using Facebook, so I'm never going to use either option. I actually get some satisfaction that my profile is basically an ad against Facebook, which worse for them than if it just vanished.
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I think the pervasive availability and highly engineered and data driven optimization for engagement that are possible with phones and social media create a novel condition. You couldn’t play Everquest on the bus, in the toilet, in class, and in bed, but it’s now possible to basically never not be on Facebook. Also, Everquest and TV didn’t have anything like the degree of user data and monitoring that we have now. It…
People are certainly talking about excessive social media use whether FB likes it or not. The goal of propaganda is not to make people think a certain way; it's to get people to act a certain way. Entertainment is centered around consumption, not interaction. If I can get people who dislike something to read entertaining articles about how it's bad instead of going out and protesting or canceling accounts, then I've…
I don't use it either, but apparently lots of people still do. It seems like you're proposing that we should, in aggregate, spontaneously become more virtuous. How?
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> We have them because we judge their operation to be in society's best interest. > ... > If a company is not acting on society's best interest, it should be made to or abolished. Wow! And here was me naively thinking that we have for-profit companies to bring profit to their owners/shareholders.
> Wow! And here was me naively thinking that we have for-profit companies to bring profit to their owners/shareholders. Yeah, that is pretty naive thinking. We're talking about society as a whole , but that line stops at the motivations of a particular actor in it. An ideal society allows for the seeking of personal profit, but only so long as the side effects of that profit-seeking are beneficial overall. When it is…
Sorry, I'm simply not convinced that monetizing and marketing people's attention is all that much of a social ill. There is nothing about Facebook that's in any way worse than the old ways companies used to do this. Does nobody remember the 80s? TV was turning people into fricken' zombies. People would sit on the boob tube for days at a time, stopping only to go to work to mindlessly knock out chores for a shift, the…
Let's not forget about the pornography epidemic that is alive and rampant, altering young minds and numbing the seasoned viewers.
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>a walled garden with omnipresent surveillance and advertising So... a shopping mall? A school? Any corporate job? A walk through downtown? "In-network" minutes and long distance charges on your phone? Religious institutions? Whatever Facebook is doing wrong for society, they are standing on the backs of giants. Walled garden or not, surveillance or not, advertising or not, people have never been as free to socialize…
> If there is something negative on your Facebook feed, you are solely responsible for it being there. It takes two clicks to make it go away forever. What do I click on to make the stuff Facebook decided I shouldn't see show up?
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> If there is something negative on your Facebook feed, you are solely responsible for it being there. It takes two clicks to make it go away forever. What do I click on to make the stuff Facebook decided I shouldn't see show up?
There used to be Facebook lists (NOT groups, lists are a private sorting friends can’t see). I would make a list of friends I most want to follow and open just that list. But that feature seems gone (I also used list to limit friends visibility and access to my wall... honestly google plus has this right)
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Is it possible TV did make society marginally worse, and each new dopamine trap captures an increasing fraction of society? This statement is laughable: > The thing that actually holds old friendships together and provides endless opportunities to interact with other people that you would have never done otherwise Facebook's innovation was trapping users in a walled garden with omnipresent surveillance and advertisin…
> Facebook's innovation was trapping users in a walled garden with omnipresent surveillance and advertising That isn't an innovation. They're AOL 2.0.
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"stuff and it's equated with Pizzagate-style conspiracies and worse that you don't see on the opposite side of the fence." "Koch brothers". There is nothing one side's fever swamp does that the other can't match, which is why wise people attempting to discern truths ignore both, but most especially, ignore the one on the "other side".
Except the left/liberal side (as defined in US terms) mostly rejects the extremes. The right/conservatives have turned a blind eye toward (and in some cases wholly embraced) their "fever swamp". The truth is not in the middle.
I'm a right winger but I still believe in evolution and I don't have a portrait of Hitler on my wall.
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There used to be Facebook lists (NOT groups, lists are a private sorting friends can’t see). I would make a list of friends I most want to follow and open just that list. But that feature seems gone (I also used list to limit friends visibility and access to my wall... honestly google plus has this right)
Facebook still has lists. It's a little convoluted and only really works well from a desktop/laptop browser, but they're there.