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Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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It's not a 'news paper', it's a street corner in medieval Europe lined with 'prophets' all spewing shit in an attempt to attract followers.

Your comparison is inapt. One tweet in your timeline can not drown out other tweets.

That's not entirely true. Twitter doesn't show you all tweets in chronological order, it has some kind of sorting algorithm like Facebook. If you follow enough people popular tweets and tweeters definitely drown out less popular ones

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Centralization isn't bad; often, it's welcome, as by its nature it's more efficient. Bitcoin is a good example of how not to do tech. Beyond that, you're under the mistaken impression that government=centralized, private=decentralized. The reality is, governments and markets are two sides of the same coin. They both strive centralize control.

> Bitcoin is a good example of how not to do tech Bitcoin is a great example of exactly how to do tech. I'm pretty sure we probably fundamentally disagree on most things :) > you're under the mistaken impression that government=centralized, private=decentralized None of the technologies I listed are private enterprises.

> Bitcoin is a great example of exactly how to do tech. I'm pretty sure we probably fundamentally disagree on most things :)

I disagree about that, but I don't really think we have that many fundamental disagreement. For instance, I get why many honest people like the decentralization and censorship-free ideas in Bitcoin. I share some of those values, too, but I put a different priority for them; for me, in case of Bitcoin, all those benefits are heavily outweighed by the energy footprint.

> None of the technologies I listed are private enterprises.

No, but that part was referring to the second part of your comment, about "taking Google over government intervention any day". Maybe I worded it too strongly, though.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Agreed. How a 160 character text service manages to bloat and provide less utility than something that STARTED as richer content (Facebook) is beyond me. I've tried for perhaps 10 yeas now and have never been able to make Twitter work for me.

I decided last year that after 10 years, I would figure out how to get something out of twitter, and what I've found is that it really became a useful tool for me by the time I was following around 300 people, and had curated joke and garbage accounts out. What I have now is a bunch of people in my own industry (music twitter, tech twitter), a bunch of people in industries I'm tangentially related to (Game dev twitte…

I use it in a similar way. I follow ~400 mostly in my fields and fields I am interested in, with a heavy emphasis on accounts who post mostly text (as well as a few exceptional photographers). I unfollow or mute accounts that start posting animated gifs, memes, or clickbait.

One difference, however: I hardly ever use the Twitter Web interface anymore because of its algorithm that seems to emphasize yesterday's news and bury the stuff from people that I want to see. Tweetdeck's home feed is a godsend - just reverse-chron and no ads (yet).

Tangential rant: LinkedIn's feed has become a cesspool of clickbait and low-value "news" articles, as the algorithm prioritizes those posts which link to articles with photos. There are sometimes good text discussions sparked by people like Jason Fried, but 90%+ of the posts in my feed feature stock photography, company logos, and headshots of the titans of industry.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Twitter loves Trump. It's not just twitter... the whole profit center around online communities is based on active communities. Most topics are cyclical - once the Superbowl is over, it's hard to keep a football community active. Only so many people are interested in the draft, in coaching changes, etc. But throw in some controversy and all of a sudden everything lights up again. The problem, or _a_ problem, is that…

This suggests Twitter is somewhat antifragile wrt controversy and events, perhaps more so than other media.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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I didn't join twitter due to Trump, but I kept going there to see if his ludicrous tweets were real, when one day I decided on a whim to create an account since I liked the design compared to Reddit and Facebook. I found a lot of good people and pages to follow, and now I login everyday, and it's probably a more useful use of time than my usage of Reddit/YouTube/Facebook.

I started using Twitter daily a year ago and now I follow about 600 deep learning researchers. It is more lively than /r/machinelearning. I quite enjoy occasionally being able to chat with top guys in the field, especially that they are so busy. Pro tip: when a Trump article comes, select "I don't like this tweet" from the side menu, and after a few such actions applied here and there, your feed is going to feel clea…

Can you please list some of these deep learning accounts, should be very interesting. Thanks!

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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This seems fair, as a consumer. I follow a few very good computer scientists and entrepreneurs on Twitter and the things they post are of high value to me. I don’t mind the ads or the web app.

I favor reading books and academic papers over random web browsing, but some time spent on Twitter, HN, and a few Reddit subs-Reddit’s keeps me up to date, tech-news wise.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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I'm still amazed how bad the Twitter.com UI is. The fact stuff like Hootsuite,tweetdeck and a zillion similar tools exist to effectively make twitter usable if you follow more than a dozen people is crazy. There is a whole bunch of innovation waiting to happen: for instance Twitter could build a community around creating and sharing 'lists' for just about any topic. I wanted to make a 'list' for every Canadian MP but…

The stupidity of this is, Twitter made Tweetdeck. Why are we complaining about how bad the UI is if they made something better for specific users?

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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post #18

Twitter loves Trump. It's not just twitter... the whole profit center around online communities is based on active communities. Most topics are cyclical - once the Superbowl is over, it's hard to keep a football community active. Only so many people are interested in the draft, in coaching changes, etc. But throw in some controversy and all of a sudden everything lights up again. The problem, or _a_ problem, is that…

Yep, and I have actually been wondering; Has anyone been able to determine if the Trump family has been investing-in or profiting-off of twitter?

How much twitter does trump own?

https://www.google.com/search?q=twitter+stock&oq=twitter+sto...

Certainly looks like this year has been an uptick for them...

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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post #176

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You can make lists on Twitter and see other people's lists.

The problem was searching for lists other people have made, not having a list feature at all.

It's the type of thing twitter could really facilitate too - oh I see you added snoopdog and drdre, you might be interested in the "West coast Rappers" list!

Publishing/maintaining lists is something a organisation could do - ie CNN might want to publish a list of all their political journalists.

The list thing is really just a example of a feature they could have experimented with and for whatever reason didn't.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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post #87

I'm still amazed how bad the Twitter.com UI is. The fact stuff like Hootsuite,tweetdeck and a zillion similar tools exist to effectively make twitter usable if you follow more than a dozen people is crazy. There is a whole bunch of innovation waiting to happen: for instance Twitter could build a community around creating and sharing 'lists' for just about any topic. I wanted to make a 'list' for every Canadian MP but…

>I'm still amazed how bad the Twitter.com UI is. Yes, I have been complaining about this sporadically for a while. I mean, I once tweeted that you have to do a headstand to read the tweets in chronological order [1], and even, the text will be upside down ... :) Some time later, I think they have made some changes to that, for certain cases at least, e.g. for a thread consisting of a tweet and replies to it. But in a…

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/a/2015/the-what-a...

I'm sure someone has worked on it. Might be interesting if Twitter had a opt in way to try some of their UI experiments.

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