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Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Twitter is the world's news paper now. I think, as world newspaper, it is worth it's value.

It's not a 'news paper', it's a street corner in medieval Europe lined with 'prophets' all spewing shit in an attempt to attract followers.

Twitter can be a very valuable resource if you follow the right people.

No matter what industry you are interested in, there are leaders worth following on Twitter.

One example for finance, Cliff Asness. He's a billionaire quant hedge fund guy, but he tweets every day.

There's a ton of investors, businesspeople, reporters, programmers, researchers, etc. that are very active on Twitter, not to mention the plethora of comedy accounts that I find hilarious.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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I'm still amazed how bad the Twitter.com UI is. The fact stuff like Hootsuite,tweetdeck and a zillion similar tools exist to effectively make twitter usable if you follow more than a dozen people is crazy. There is a whole bunch of innovation waiting to happen: for instance Twitter could build a community around creating and sharing 'lists' for just about any topic. I wanted to make a 'list' for every Canadian MP but…

>I'm still amazed how bad the Twitter.com UI is. Yes, I have been complaining about this sporadically for a while. I mean, I once tweeted that you have to do a headstand to read the tweets in chronological order [1], and even, the text will be upside down ... :) Some time later, I think they have made some changes to that, for certain cases at least, e.g. for a thread consisting of a tweet and replies to it. But in a…

It would be interesting to play with a left-to-right timeline for any tweet replies or conversations. It would leave the standard timeline alone, but allow users to scroll right to deep dive into specific conversations.

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Usenet and similar distributed messaging systems (FidoNet) have been around since the 80's. Twitter made it accessible.

> Twitter made it accessible. Which is the real problem. Usenet was better because it was before the Internet was interesting to the general population. Twitter sucks for the same reason YouTube comments and /r/all suck - regular people.

Yep. The Internet in general was better before it was interesting to the general population. Take me back to the late 90's, please.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

#194
post #165

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>I'm still amazed how bad the Twitter.com UI is. Yes, I have been complaining about this sporadically for a while. I mean, I once tweeted that you have to do a headstand to read the tweets in chronological order [1], and even, the text will be upside down ... :) Some time later, I think they have made some changes to that, for certain cases at least, e.g. for a thread consisting of a tweet and replies to it. But in a…

It would be interesting to play with a left-to-right timeline for any tweet replies or conversations. It would leave the standard timeline alone, but allow users to scroll right to deep dive into specific conversations.

How would you limit the horizontal scrolling to only one conversation?

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

#195
post #163
post #87

I'm still amazed how bad the Twitter.com UI is. The fact stuff like Hootsuite,tweetdeck and a zillion similar tools exist to effectively make twitter usable if you follow more than a dozen people is crazy. There is a whole bunch of innovation waiting to happen: for instance Twitter could build a community around creating and sharing 'lists' for just about any topic. I wanted to make a 'list' for every Canadian MP but…

Agreed. How a 160 character text service manages to bloat and provide less utility than something that STARTED as richer content (Facebook) is beyond me. I've tried for perhaps 10 yeas now and have never been able to make Twitter work for me.

I decided last year that after 10 years, I would figure out how to get something out of twitter, and what I've found is that it really became a useful tool for me by the time I was following around 300 people, and had curated joke and garbage accounts out.

What I have now is a bunch of people in my own industry (music twitter, tech twitter), a bunch of people in industries I'm tangentially related to (Game dev twitter, vis-art twitter), a bunch of individual journalists, but by and large not the accounts of the publications they belong to, as well as the senators and congresspersons from my state.

By keeping a realtime stream of the people I follow in my periphery, I know when something is interesting when the list moves faster than normal, and if I feel like paying attention to it, the list moves quickly enough normally that there's a steady stream of real-time thoughts from people that I care about, and it doesn't move too quickly to read them.

The biggest thing I had to get over early on was wanting to read everything. Twitter's timeline isn't particularly legible if you want to go through and read everything your friends have written, but that's not how most people are really using it in my experience. People are checking in, seeing what's buzzing, and participating in the conversation if they have something to say.

That was the next big hurdle that I'm trying to get over now: Twitter is a participatory thing. You get more out of it if you start engaging with people. Twitter is so obtuse though, that it took my getting in to Mastodon to realize this.

You can talk to the void all you want, but if you want people to find /you/, you have to start talking to people.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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I've pretty much dumped Twitter for Mastodon. My mental health couldn't keep up with the air of constant outrage on Twitter.

I've been on Mastodon for a week now and loving it. But it's a different beast from Twitter. I find it much more socially engaging and interactive. On Twitter, I mostly just followed people and consumed their posts the way I consume an RSS feed. I re-tweeted, but never really posted much on my own or engaged in any kind of dialogue with anyone else. On Mastodon, I don't really follow anyone. I post a lot of random th…

I've been really engaging with Mastodon lately and having a similar experience. I find it's also changing the way I behave on sites like Twitter and HN as well.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Confession: when I open up twitter, the thing that excites me most is when I see that patio11 has tweeted. His stuff is just an absolute must-read for me. He uses twitter almost like a blog, which is different than most other people I follow. Some people use twitter like it's facebook, some people use it merely as a pointer to other content, some people use it to argue, some people use it to interact with major brand…

That probably explains why patio11 is the only thing I ever read on Twitter.

I have no idea whether I follow anybody. My only interaction with the site is to go to https://twitter.com/patio11 from time to time, scroll way down to the last thing I remember having read, then read up.

I can't understand why they don't have a simple way to sort things in the order they were written. But then it's possible that I'm the only person who reads it this way, so perhaps it's unreasonable to expect them to build a feature for me.

I try from time to time to read other people's twitters. Even tech people who are interesting here and on their blogs. It's unbearable.

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Reddit is insta-community. Here's how I use Reddit: I pick up a new hobby, say knitting. I go to reddit.com/r/knitting and suddenly I have a bunch of experts there who I can ask questions, exchange ideas with, or brag to about my accomplishments. There is an instant community already existing on Reddit for pretty much every activity I can think of. Where this gets dicey is politics. If you are suddenly a black libret…

I don't think reddit does a good job of dealing with academic subjects or discussions either. Any /r/{academic_topic} is usually filled with undergraduate-level discussion. I think that is a direct consequence of reddit being an insta-community though - it prevents the development of actual-expert communities. There are some good expert communities like /r/askhistorians, and their model certainly works for something…

Only communities with expert-level moderators, who are capable of recognising layman speculation, can become expert communities. Unfortunately, unless you're a historian, most experts have better things to do than moderate online communities for free.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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> Twitter made it accessible. Which is the real problem. Usenet was better because it was before the Internet was interesting to the general population. Twitter sucks for the same reason YouTube comments and /r/all suck - regular people.

Yep. The Internet in general was better before it was interesting to the general population. Take me back to the late 90's, please.

Is that sarcasm?

There clearly are some problems with the Internet, but nobody is forcing me to use Facebook or Twitter.

But there are some things I emphatically do not miss about the late '90s: Slow modems; even with ISDN, the Internet was painfully slow. Also, no flat rates - in Germany, the phone companies charged for dial-up connections by the minute. No mobile Internet. No Wikipedia. No YouTube. 10 MiB-sized mailboxes. TFT displays cost more than the entire PC I was using at the time (with a crappy CRT display). PCs with less RAM than todays HDDs have in cache. Windows 95 and 98. I could go on and on.

About the only thing I miss more and more often is that I was twenty years younger.

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