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Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by acconrad » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 1:54 AM UTC

carlosthedwarf wrote: post #4

> The zero-carb community believes that we evolved to mainly eat meat, and that ancient humans turned to plants only in times of near-starvation. Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't most scientific studies of our evolutionary process revealed the opposite of this? For example, actual carnivores that have evolved over time don't require dietary supplements of vitamin c. Or if you look at the structure and prominence o…

Just think about it logically - people live all over the world. In all sorts of climates. How can it even be possible that a native Hawaiian would have the same diet as an Inuit? The tundra of northern British Columbia has far less vegetation available to eat and larger animals. That's a diet totally different from the Japanese, or the Indians, or the Greeks.

The only thing that is true is that we have evolved to handle a diversity of flora and fauna, that is why we are classified as omnivores. And each sub population has further been accustomed to tolerate higher quantities of the foods native to those lands.

Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by ha8o8le » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 2:05 AM UTC

Djvacto wrote: post #3

I'm honestly not quite sure how to interpret this. To me the idea seems bonkers. Even if I didn't try to eat more plant than animal, it would seem bonkers. From what I've read, eating more meat is likely to increase the risk of bowel cancer [1]( https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/21639/cancer-information/ca... ) Additionally, it's way, way harder to get all your vitamins and nutrients with only meats, especially while…

Going to the extreme and eating only meat is a bit bonkers.

The main problem with our diet and what causes the most disease and death are carbs and sugar.

Take a look at this regarding nutrients and plants http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2014/04/the-perfect-five-a-day/

I have been researching all sides of this for 6 months now for a doc http://foodlies.org so I'm very familiar with a ll the arguments and studies on both sides.

Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by ha8o8le » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 2:07 AM UTC

fao_ wrote: post #12

logical42 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A diet which is a subset of another diet can still be classified as a diet of that type, at least that’s how I think of it.

Diets are important in what they exclude.

I agree. All meat is too extreme... What makes low carb diets great is that they exclude grains and sugar which are the real problem.

Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by maruhan2 » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 2:09 AM UTC

programmarchy wrote: post #5

The diet she's describing is more commonly known as the ketogenic (keto) diet, rather than the "Bitcoin carnivore" diet.

Depends on how much protein she's consuming. If she consumes too much protein, she'll no longer be on ketogenesis. It doesn't say in the article how much fat she's consuming vs protein, but judging by her saying she's mainly eating meat, I don't think she's on ketogensis.

Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by mesozoic » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 2:10 AM UTC

This is the stupidest and most poorly researched article I may have ever seen.

They can't even get the name of the diet or the origins right.

Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by ha8o8le » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 2:12 AM UTC

Strom wrote: post #13

znpy wrote: post #7

I usually read most of the article, until I get the main point and some details, but this time i went through the whole thing because right now I am in the middle of a diy diet myself (nothing fancy, just cutting on carbs, paying a bit more attention to what I eat and cooking at home instead of eating outside). First thing first, eating only meat is not as bonkers as it might seem. In fact, it's a huge an distinctive…

> eating meat only can be sustainable. Not sure how long, though. I've heard of several people who have eaten nothing but meat for decades and swear by it. It's fascinating. There's a 2 hour podcast with a seemingly smart guy who has eaten meat for a few years now and has also become a proponent of the idea. I can recommend checking this out for anyone who wants to get a better idea how this carnivore diet works. htt…

Shawn Baker! I interviewed him for my film. I'm not a fan of this diet, but strongly believe in not eating carbs and sugar.

I feel best when I eat red meat and green vegetables.

Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by ha8o8le » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 2:15 AM UTC

znpy wrote: post #7

I usually read most of the article, until I get the main point and some details, but this time i went through the whole thing because right now I am in the middle of a diy diet myself (nothing fancy, just cutting on carbs, paying a bit more attention to what I eat and cooking at home instead of eating outside). First thing first, eating only meat is not as bonkers as it might seem. In fact, it's a huge an distinctive…

There's no reason to ever go back to eating carbs, all they do is damage.

There actually isn't a ton of hormones and antibiotics in grocery store meat, it's mostly vegan propaganda I believed in until last week when I actually researched it. Soy products have 1000 times the hormones than any piece of meat.

Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by ha8o8le » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 2:19 AM UTC

carlosthedwarf wrote: post #4

> The zero-carb community believes that we evolved to mainly eat meat, and that ancient humans turned to plants only in times of near-starvation. Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't most scientific studies of our evolutionary process revealed the opposite of this? For example, actual carnivores that have evolved over time don't require dietary supplements of vitamin c. Or if you look at the structure and prominence o…

Not correct - this is (very successful) vegan propaganda. Look into it more.

I interviewed Dr. Shawn Baker MD who has done this for a year now. As carb intake decreases the need for vitamin C decreases. He takes no supplements and is in perfect health.

The real problem is carbs and sugar. I don't believe anyone needs to take it the extreme of going all meat - just cut down/out carbs and sugar and you will have lifelong health.

Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by riku_iki » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 2:49 AM UTC

tmearnest wrote: post #9

programmarchy wrote: post #5

The diet she's describing is more commonly known as the ketogenic (keto) diet, rather than the "Bitcoin carnivore" diet.

Not really. The keto diet includes plants. Just not starchy or sweet ones, e.g. cauliflower, lettuce, broccoli, etc.

> Just not starchy or sweet ones, e.g. cauliflower, lettuce, broccoli, etc.

I dropped broccoli because of high carbs..

Re: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks

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Post by rkh2018 » Fri, Feb 09, 2018, 6:49 AM UTC

There are many researchers that come to the complete opposite conclusion. Most of the Animal products we can buy today are produced too cheaply and thus not very healthy to eat in large quantities.

Just watch „What the Health“[1] or „Cowspiracy“[2] and tell ne what you think about it?

[1] http://www.whatthehealthfilm.com/

[2] http://www.cowspiracy.com/