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Re: Google is buying Chelsea Market building for over $2B

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This is such a fascinating cycle. Large pensions & sovereign wealth funds are so desperate for yield vs. low treasuries that they have pushed income producing commercial real estate values to all time highs. As a result these fund managers are then forced to take on larger risks to cover their liabilities by making larger portfolio allocations into public techs like Google, and privates like AirBNB & Uber. And this d…

It also means it is a great time to be able to produce value and be in control of its distribution (eg. start your startup and control the equity). People with lots of money are hungry for yields and will push your valuation higher and higher. See: cryptocurrencies (bitcoin etc) or sharing economy startups (uber, airbnb etc)

Yeah, Uber is perfect example of the superiority of startup founders to run later-stage companies. Can't wait to see where Kalanick takes it next.

Edit: Now I'm wondering if I'm being downvoted by those who don't get the sarcasm, or by Kalanick himself.

Re: Google is buying Chelsea Market building for over $2B

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Definitely. But there's also been very little investment into remote work, both from a research and infrastructure perspective. I just wonder, if they were to take some of this cash and invest it into proving out remote work, would it turn out to be a better long term investment? In most of the cases that I've observed, companies enter into remote work literally by just letting their employees start working remotely.…

Another point that I’m not sure gets much attention is that, as these companies build huge campuses and spread out to multiple locations across a region, how co-located are employees anyway? Sure you can move people around to be with primary teams but it’s certainly not like everyone can pop over to talk with someone or can depend on a lot of serendipitous hallway conversations.

That's a great point. Google tends to collocate teams by product, so that may be their answer to this. But it's true that you'll eventually reach a scale where you're going to have daily remote interactions, regardless of whether those people are in an office or not. Even at the Googleplex, if you're in an office across campus, it's better to connect to the meeting remotely than walk over.

Re: Google is buying Chelsea Market building for over $2B

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Unfortunately that Thai place closed due to the rising cost of rent in the building. I work in the Food Network office in CM. For now, heh.

> I work in the Food Network office in CM. Doing something software/tech related?

> Doing something software/tech related?

I wonder if "being dislocated by" counts as "related".

Re: Google is buying Chelsea Market building for over $2B

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It also means it is a great time to be able to produce value and be in control of its distribution (eg. start your startup and control the equity). People with lots of money are hungry for yields and will push your valuation higher and higher. See: cryptocurrencies (bitcoin etc) or sharing economy startups (uber, airbnb etc)

Yeah, Uber is perfect example of the superiority of startup founders to run later-stage companies. Can't wait to see where Kalanick takes it next. Edit: Now I'm wondering if I'm being downvoted by those who don't get the sarcasm, or by Kalanick himself.

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Re: Google is buying Chelsea Market building for over $2B

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It also means it is a great time to be able to produce value and be in control of its distribution (eg. start your startup and control the equity). People with lots of money are hungry for yields and will push your valuation higher and higher. See: cryptocurrencies (bitcoin etc) or sharing economy startups (uber, airbnb etc)

Yeah, Uber is perfect example of the superiority of startup founders to run later-stage companies. Can't wait to see where Kalanick takes it next. Edit: Now I'm wondering if I'm being downvoted by those who don't get the sarcasm, or by Kalanick himself.

> Can't wait to see where Kalanick takes it next.

How? He is no longer the CEO of Co.

Re: Google is buying Chelsea Market building for over $2B

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$1600/ft seems shockingly high for commercial real estate, even in New York. Just because you have lots of money (that theoretically belongs to your shareholders) doesn’t mean you should overpay.

It's not shockingly high by a long shot. Paying 1.6M for a 1000 sq ft condo in that area is totally feasible.

in fact, that'd be quite cheap.

Re: Google is buying Chelsea Market building for over $2B

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post #82

This is such a fascinating cycle. Large pensions & sovereign wealth funds are so desperate for yield vs. low treasuries that they have pushed income producing commercial real estate values to all time highs. As a result these fund managers are then forced to take on larger risks to cover their liabilities by making larger portfolio allocations into public techs like Google, and privates like AirBNB & Uber. And this d…

It also means it is a great time to be able to produce value and be in control of its distribution (eg. start your startup and control the equity). People with lots of money are hungry for yields and will push your valuation higher and higher. See: cryptocurrencies (bitcoin etc) or sharing economy startups (uber, airbnb etc)

I've read about this a few time this year, do you think there will be some "tipping point" or crisis about these funds not being able to generate wealth?

Re: Google is buying Chelsea Market building for over $2B

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>The real answer is for cities to be built up so much that even a Google-sized company is a drop in the bucket. That's a repulsive suggestion to many people who live in Boulder. Living in a city of <250k people is a feature, not a bug. Boulder is not cheap, if people wanted density they could already move to Denver for the same price and climate.

The problem is that I don't think there's a compelling case to be made that the people who happen to live in Boulder at this exact moment in time are more deserving of the right to live there than anybody else in the United States. Other people want to live in Boulder for the same reasons you do. If enough other people want that, then it's going to grow. Interestingly, the modern liberal position seems to be that eve…

> my experience is that, in actual practice, people don't even want Ohioans to move to their town.

Hm, most of the people I know who live in the "coastal elite" cities did not grow up in those same cities; they grew up in places like Ohio.

(Which, again, is fine if Boulder wants to be a steady size forever - make sure enough people are moving out to bigger towns to cancel out population growth, by making sure they don't have too many job opportunities locally.)

Re: Google is buying Chelsea Market building for over $2B

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As a Google Waterloo employee I personally think much of the food at Google NYC is better, maybe the best I've had at Google. Not all of it, but some. There are certainly more options, as we have only one cafe here but there are many in NYC. But I haven't been there in 5 years, so I can't say that with certainty, things may have changed.

They had an enclosure containing an environment for growing micro greens you could pick yourself. lol. It wasn't for us I/O'ers, though. I was impressed, but maybe I haven't been spoiled yet. They did just have the one cafeteria when I was there, but I wouldn't talk it down. Waterloo isn't that large of an office, relatively speaking. I wouldn't be surprised that the NYC location is slaying Kitchener/Waterloo. I'd ho…

The microgreens are not for self-picking, but the kitchen staff picks from it.

It's impressive to get fed 3 meals a daily, yes. Many things are impressive. But you'd be amazed how entitled the average Googler gets after a few months.

It is still a job after all.

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