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Being a perfectionist is an obstacle and how to beat it

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Re: Being a perfectionist is an obstacle and how to beat it

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Hello all, OP here. Don't hesitate to shoot any questions if you have any. This blog is mostly oriented towards filmmakers, but the concept of perfecting vs completing can apply just as well to web or technical endeavors.

Thanks for posting this! Have you noticed a difference in people who are more accustomed to tapping into their flow state? Might be hard to get honest answers from people, I realize.

Re: Being a perfectionist is an obstacle and how to beat it

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I'm really skeptical of this attitude. In a lot of fields I've seen people who commit themselves to "just getting it done." The result is that they do get a lot of work done: and it's bad, it's mediocre, it doesn't have value. On the other hand, one can easily think of creators who spent a long time on one work (maybe "too much" time), and the result was work of lasting value. Of course, this relates more to artistic…

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Re: Being a perfectionist is an obstacle and how to beat it

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Hello all, OP here. Don't hesitate to shoot any questions if you have any. This blog is mostly oriented towards filmmakers, but the concept of perfecting vs completing can apply just as well to web or technical endeavors.

Thanks for posting this! Have you noticed a difference in people who are more accustomed to tapping into their flow state? Might be hard to get honest answers from people, I realize.

Is tapping into your flow state a similar thing to "being in the zone"?

In which case, it's hard to tell, since it is quite subconscious.

I'd be tempted to say that being in the zone (if that's what you mean, let me know if not) happens to people who allow themselves to be less self-conscious, to be less disturbed by their own ego. In which case it may help them create better or more focused work.

Although I realize I will probably give this a bit more thoughts, since that's interesting :)

Re: Being a perfectionist is an obstacle and how to beat it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for posting this! Have you noticed a difference in people who are more accustomed to tapping into their flow state? Might be hard to get honest answers from people, I realize.

Is tapping into your flow state a similar thing to "being in the zone"? In which case, it's hard to tell, since it is quite subconscious. I'd be tempted to say that being in the zone (if that's what you mean, let me know if not) happens to people who allow themselves to be less self-conscious, to be less disturbed by their own ego. In which case it may help them create better or more focused work. Although I realize…

>Is tapping into your flow state a similar thing to "being in the zone"?

Yep, exactly! I could see people who try to control things too much having a hard time getting into that state/zone and replacing it with a long cycle of fussing, but that's just how I imagine it might work. Thanks for the reply :^)

Re: Being a perfectionist is an obstacle and how to beat it

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I'm really skeptical of this attitude. In a lot of fields I've seen people who commit themselves to "just getting it done." The result is that they do get a lot of work done: and it's bad, it's mediocre, it doesn't have value. On the other hand, one can easily think of creators who spent a long time on one work (maybe "too much" time), and the result was work of lasting value. Of course, this relates more to artistic…

If history has anything to teach us, it's that being prolific in creating work is more successful than being a perfectionist. Alexandre Dumas didn't know he was creating a what's now considered a literary masterpiece when he wrote The Three Musketeers. It was just another of the many, many stories he wrote.

Re: Being a perfectionist is an obstacle and how to beat it

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99% of the perfectionists I have had the misfortune to work with are just slow or out of their depth and are using the term as an emotional crutch. How much nicer it is to tell yourself that you are a perfectionist than you are just not very good at whatever you are doing. The people that turn out near perfect work are usually the fastest and just get things done. It is a pity they are so rare.

That's funny, most of the people I've worked with don't appreciate the value of slow, methodical, thorough work. They lack the ability to predict failure scenarios and predict how small changes will cascade in a system and cause undesired behavior. Therefore the time taken seems wasted to them when in fact they frequently don't understand.

There's room for both types of people in the world, but only one should call themselves an engineer.

Re: Being a perfectionist is an obstacle and how to beat it

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Obsessing over minutiae won't help you to see the bigger picture. I think it's important to show your work early, in order that others can feedback. It's very easy to perfectly create something but to make some fundamental miss-step with the overall design.

   Obsessing over minutiae won't help you to see the bigger picture.
You can paint Get’er done people with that brush too. Efficiently producing wrong code helps nobody but yourself.

There are flavors of good engineering that allow the team to maintain velocity year over year. Too often those techniques get thrown under the perfectionism bus and then later the team blames “bad luck” [edit or ‘stupid people’ not them] for their failures.

Re: Being a perfectionist is an obstacle and how to beat it

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99% of the perfectionists I have had the misfortune to work with are just slow or out of their depth and are using the term as an emotional crutch. How much nicer it is to tell yourself that you are a perfectionist than you are just not very good at whatever you are doing. The people that turn out near perfect work are usually the fastest and just get things done. It is a pity they are so rare.

I have definitely noticed that before, though I'm not sure that I'd prescribe the percentage as 99%. I have definitely seem some relatively poor things defended as "perfectionism".
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