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Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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Reddit is at a stage where it can attract as much help as it needs, so this seems like a great thing. The startup world has always lacked for investors smart enough to grasp new stuff, brave enough to be first, and ethical/humble enough to attract the great founders. Looking forward to seeing the investments!

Thank you, staunch. I'm excited to be focusing on seed stage investing again with Garry and the team. This is an amazing opportunity for us.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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This is the exact type of thing I am talking about. You see this bothsiderism all over the place on Reddit. I am sure the author of this comment doesn't think of themselves as a racist (and perhaps there was sarcasm intended in this comment that is lost in the printed word). Many users might read this comment without considering it is racist. Yet the comment is drawing a direct parallel between Stormfront and the Sou…

Bad groups can hide behind good ideals. Just because they are a "nonprofit legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public interest litigation" does not mean they aren't racist or politically extreme. I do agree that SPLC and Stormfront do not compare, but it could be argued that Reddit blocks or suppresses conservative, non-multiculturalist views much more than liberal ones. That asymmetry is par…

I would say it's a delusional victimhood on the part of those people.

/r/The_Donald has broken many rules of Reddit and the largest punishment they've been given is that /r/popular was created to steer people to less toxic content.

You can also look to how long they let /r/physical_removal (advocates of political violence towards "commies" and "leftists") and /r/incels (advocates of sexual assault, rape, and violence against women) stay open.

/r/MensRights is still around despite doxxing and harassing people in the past.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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As much as I don’t want to bring that particular debate here, this comment reads like anyone with conservative politics is a troll to be silenced. As someone who doesn’t agree, please understand how offensive and unconstructive this statement is.

All of those communities mentioned are not simply providing conservative viewpoints. The ones mentioned have coordinated harassment towards people and organizations that they disagree with.

What you call coordinated harassment may also be called political activism. A democracy requires participation and expression to advance. Of course it can be taken too far, but organizations should be able to handle political expression.

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I like talking with conservatives. I may not be one but I think it is an important political viewpoint that can have valid perspectives. But unless you’re going to say racism, bigotry, and all the rest that The Donald/alt-right bring to the table are conservative ideals I don’t see ANY way you could take what I said as espousing that.

See, the difference here is that as someone who regularly skims the top posts there (if nothing else to get away from the never-ending "trump is a baby eating puppy murderer" stories that exist literally everywhere else ), I don't see the "racism and bigotry" that you're talking about.

/r/the_donald was promoting the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville with a sticky at the top of their sub.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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All of those communities mentioned are not simply providing conservative viewpoints. The ones mentioned have coordinated harassment towards people and organizations that they disagree with.

What you call coordinated harassment may also be called political activism. A democracy requires participation and expression to advance. Of course it can be taken too far, but organizations should be able to handle political expression.

I don't think harassing a woman over a story made-up by a bitter ex-boyfriend counts as political expression by any measure.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the exact type of thing I am talking about. You see this bothsiderism all over the place on Reddit. I am sure the author of this comment doesn't think of themselves as a racist (and perhaps there was sarcasm intended in this comment that is lost in the printed word). Many users might read this comment without considering it is racist. Yet the comment is drawing a direct parallel between Stormfront and the Sou…

Bad groups can hide behind good ideals. Just because they are a "nonprofit legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public interest litigation" does not mean they aren't racist or politically extreme. I do agree that SPLC and Stormfront do not compare, but it could be argued that Reddit blocks or suppresses conservative, non-multiculturalist views much more than liberal ones. That asymmetry is par…

The fact that you equate conservative views with things like white supremacy is a huge problem. Rational and compassionate people can be conservative. No one is going to censor debate about things like state rights, a small federal government, tax cuts, trickle down economics, etc. But I don’t think it is controversial to say that white supremacy is simply morally wrong.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bad groups can hide behind good ideals. Just because they are a "nonprofit legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public interest litigation" does not mean they aren't racist or politically extreme. I do agree that SPLC and Stormfront do not compare, but it could be argued that Reddit blocks or suppresses conservative, non-multiculturalist views much more than liberal ones. That asymmetry is par…

The fact that you equate conservative views with things like white supremacy is a huge problem. Rational and compassionate people can be conservative. No one is going to censor debate about things like state rights, a small federal government, tax cuts, trickle down economics, etc. But I don’t think it is controversial to say that white supremacy is simply morally wrong.

Well there does tend to be a correlation between right-wing extremism and white supremacy, so it's not like that comes from nowhere.

Conservatism goes beyond states rights and economics. It's also cultural. Conservatives tend not to like multiculturalism or cultural change, and tend to like things like gender roles, immigration tests, and just generally keeping things the way they were. Rational and compassionate people can have these opinions too, yet they are suppressed on pretty much all social media sites including Reddit.

When people with moderate cultural views and opinions get suppressed, they cling to the nearest groups with the closest mindset to their own. Unfortunately, on sites like Reddit, these are often extremist subreddits.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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What you call coordinated harassment may also be called political activism. A democracy requires participation and expression to advance. Of course it can be taken too far, but organizations should be able to handle political expression.

I don't think harassing a woman over a story made-up by a bitter ex-boyfriend counts as political expression by any measure.

Which the_donald never did. It sounds like you're mixing up communities you hate.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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See, the difference here is that as someone who regularly skims the top posts there (if nothing else to get away from the never-ending "trump is a baby eating puppy murderer" stories that exist literally everywhere else ), I don't see the "racism and bigotry" that you're talking about.

/r/the_donald was promoting the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville with a sticky at the top of their sub.

The one that wasn't advertised as a white nationalist rally, you mean?

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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Maintaining civil order is everyone's responsibility, not merely professionals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles Denying a citizens obligation to be active member of the social order reduces us to passive objects in society. Why are you fighting copyright monopolies? You are doing free work for the any-copyright industry.

You have a very bootlicky idea of "civil order." You'd make a great citizen in an unjust totalitarian state.

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