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Google already occupies the majority of the space above the market - at least 3 full floors (As of a couple years ago). It's not much of a change for any New Yorkers except that they tend not to renew leases for other office space tenants.
New York Googler here. Chelsea Market is actually 19 different buildings on the same block that have merged together over time. The floor layout is truly crazy. Some floors are staggered by a full half height at the interface between buildings, there are exterior courtyards on the inside of the block that are roofed over, and buildings are of differing height. You can see it all on Google Maps; contrast with 111 8th…
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#142NYC Xoogler here. Speaking from experience, the main office (111 8th/76 9th) is amazing. I think Google's decision to buy that years ago has totally been vindicated. I'm surprised more high cash surplus companies don't do this, just to control their destiny in a way you simply can't as a tenant (eg if you're a large tenant, each floor you rent in the same building is going to get more expensive, being a tenant limits…
I totally agree. Fun historical note, IBM generated cash in its early days as Google and Apple do today, it bought a lot of real estate all around the world. In the 90's when it seemed liked it was doomed, it "saved itself" by selling off big chunks of that real estate. That gave the company operating capital without having to go to the equity markets or debt markets. Given the ups and downs of tech, it seems like a…
Wonder if that was during Lou Gerstner's time as CEO at IBM. I had read his book Who says Elephants can't Dance, about what he did to turn IBM around. It was an interesting read.
Don't remember if selling off some of their real estate was part of what they did, though it could have been.
A review of the book by an IBM insider:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/2071.htm...
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So they’re paying above average, which was my point.
That's a really silly response. They're paying 4% above average (and that's the 2016 average - prices may be higher in 2018). The average likely includes a range far greater than 4% depending on the properties involved. Google is clearly not paying anything remotely describable as "shockingly high".
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#144One of the stated objectives is to actually build out a Cyber Center in NYC as part of the jobs program. This could potentially align with Alphabet's recent "Chronicle" business being launched? I looked thru the NYCEDC Suppliers/bidders, didn't see anything resembling alphabet or chronicle though.
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Boulder has a population of ~100,000. I don't oppose the Google office, but their workforce will grow to represent 1-2% of the city's populace. That isn't a "drop in the bucket."
Boulder doesn't exist on an island. Many people commute to Boulder from Denver, the L-towns(Longmont, Lousiville, Lafayette), and even Fort Collins. So the population of the region is more like 700k
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Boulder has a population of ~100,000. I don't oppose the Google office, but their workforce will grow to represent 1-2% of the city's populace. That isn't a "drop in the bucket."
Sure - I'm advocating that more cities should grow to the point that it is a drop in the bucket, by inviting not only Google but other companies and not treating any of them as special. Or, sure, they can decide that being a 100K-person town is what they want their city to be, and use zoning to actively resist any single employer having over 1K people in the town. But this isn't a Google-specific problem, and if you…
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They want the entire building badly for years now so it makes sense to overpay and grab the deal right now before another developer comes in with a more competitive offer, knowing Google would not move away! $2B for this is not expensive, considered how much they had paid to other short-term leases. Moving to and decorating new office space will cost them many millions. If they can own the building, $2B is a big savi…
For $2B you could probably buy a nice village by the sea with great weather all year round. Having worked in downtown NYC, I'd pick a beach any day of the week. But I can see the value of a large marketing, finance and sales presence for a Google type firm in the city. Engineering not so much.
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#148I wonder if this has anything to do with the Cyber NYC effort? https://www.nycedc.com/opportunity/cyber-nyc-rfp One of the stated objectives is to actually build out a Cyber Center in NYC as part of the jobs program. This could potentially align with Alphabet's recent "Chronicle" business being launched? I looked thru the NYCEDC Suppliers/bidders, didn't see anything resembling alphabet or chronicle though.
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That's a really silly response. They're paying 4% above average (and that's the 2016 average - prices may be higher in 2018). The average likely includes a range far greater than 4% depending on the properties involved. Google is clearly not paying anything remotely describable as "shockingly high".
I’ll get more downvotes for this, but 4% when billions are involved is a shocking amount of money. In this case, that’s roughly $80 million - enough for Eric Schmidt to buy another G650.
$80M probably isn't even a shocking number to a company who made $12,660M profit last year.
Keep digging that hole, though.
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#150I wonder if this will be used for Google NYC HQ, or is Google attempting to get into the co-working game?