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Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by ikeboy »

jmull wrote: post #90
ikeboy wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was involved with a case earlier this week with Apple making a false IP claim under penalty of perjury, they don't seem to care too much. Have heard from others who've been bullied by them as well. Look up HARD2FIND ACCESSORIES INC v. AMAZON COM INC APPLE INC for another instance of them abusing IP claims.

I looked that case up... Doesn't it show the opposite of what you claim? Hard2find's suit against Apple and Amazon was dismissed with prejudice and that decision was confirmed on appeal.

They ruled that Apple had immunity, which is not the same as finding that Apple didn't lie.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by skygazer »

bob_theslob646 wrote: post #73
eridius wrote: post #6

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To patch what? This isn't a vulnerability. This is leaked source code. Apple can file takedown notices to GitHub since they own the copyright but people can always post it somewhere else.

That is what I thought. I apologize for the stupid question.

No need to apologize. This source, which Apple intended to stay private, may (or may not) still reveal exploitable vulnerabilities, which would need to be patched, if they exist, but it's not immediately obvious either way.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by mrguyorama »

stfwn wrote: post #82
codemusings wrote: post #54

From the source_layout.txt in /docs: ... /arch/arm ARM-specific code. /docs Optimisim. /drivers Portable drivers and driver infrastructure. ... There's more documentation in this folder than most projects have :)

From the IO Spreadsheet Standard document (in /docs): "This document describes the format of the I/O Spreadsheet for iOS Products. (...) The I/O spreadsheet shall be sheet in an Excel workbook." Numbers? Nope, Excel.

With the pushes Microsoft has made in the past few years at making office significantly better on Mac, I'm not surprised.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by pythonaut_16 »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #24
evv wrote: post #11

https://github.com/h1x0rz3r0/iBoot/tree/master/include/drive... Now that these drivers have been leaked, would it be possible to run Linux on old iPhones? From my understanding, the main reason it couldn't be done is because nobody had access to the driver source code, and now..

Practically speaking, yes. But these drivers would never be merged into the mainline kernel as the source code was obtained illegally. Writing a Linux driver from scratch on the basis if this code would still mean huge legal problems for the Linux kernel.

Surely this code would be useful to a clean room design though?

I.E. someone looks at the leaked code and writes a specification, then posts/shares that spec, and another person or team uses the spec to write a compatible driver without having looked at the leaked source code.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by jmull »

ikeboy wrote: post #91
jmull wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I looked that case up... Doesn't it show the opposite of what you claim? Hard2find's suit against Apple and Amazon was dismissed with prejudice and that decision was confirmed on appeal.

They ruled that Apple had immunity, which is not the same as finding that Apple didn't lie.

Well, they ruled Apple had immunity because their petition could not be construed as a sham. Also, they ruled there were no facts to support the Apple/Amazon conspiracies the plaintiff suggested AND ruled there wasn't even any hope that such facts could be supplied where the suit to be amended.

Whatever lie you think Apple is guilty of, there doesn't appear to be any sign of it amongst the material of the suit. Going to court is expensive and time-consuming, so I presume that if such facts were available, the plaintiff would have used them.

You can believe whatever you want, but it seems like you'll have to do it despite the absence of supporting facts, at least in this case.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by stuntkite »

kiliankoe wrote: post #46
stuntkite wrote: post #42

Does this mean Jailbreaking might be a thing again? I've been wanting to use some iOS devices (like 6 and newer) for some projects and now jailbreaking is super dead. I am not an embedded wizard, but I think it's pretty hard to get a new bootloader on an iOS device currently. Does anyone have better info on that?

Wasn't an iOS 11 jailbreak announced just the other day? I don't think the scene is dead at all, it's just that many of us who once used jailbreaks on every iOS version no longer do and don't follow those news anymore.

I haven't tried in a long time. I just remember this Motherboard [1] article from June.

I think I heard that Cydia was shutting down? I ran into the founder at Defcon last year, he didn't say much about it going the way of the dodo, but I don't know anyone who jailbreaks really anymore.

Recently I just had some projects come up that could greatly benefit from a jailbroken iphone for some AR installation stuff so I thought this was interesting. Maybe I should give it a go.

[1] https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8xa4ka/iphone-jai...

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by ikeboy »

jmull wrote: post #95
ikeboy wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They ruled that Apple had immunity, which is not the same as finding that Apple didn't lie.

Well, they ruled Apple had immunity because their petition could not be construed as a sham. Also, they ruled there were no facts to support the Apple/Amazon conspiracies the plaintiff suggested AND ruled there wasn't even any hope that such facts could be supplied where the suit to be amended. Whatever lie you think Apple is guilty of, there doesn't appear to be any sign of it amongst the material of the suit. Going…

I didn't say anything about the anti-trust claims, it's typical for plaintiffs to pile on as many claims as they think are remotely plausible to stick.

The lie is the claim that Apple made that plaintiffs were selling fake goods, which you'll note Apple retracted later. Whether they have liability for their lie or have immunity under free speech doctrines doesn't change the fact that they abused IP claims.

This is not an isolated instance with Apple, I have seen many others. But, as this case demonstrates, it's very tough to hold large companies accountable without a very large legal budget.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by ikeboy »

jmull wrote: post #95
ikeboy wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They ruled that Apple had immunity, which is not the same as finding that Apple didn't lie.

Well, they ruled Apple had immunity because their petition could not be construed as a sham. Also, they ruled there were no facts to support the Apple/Amazon conspiracies the plaintiff suggested AND ruled there wasn't even any hope that such facts could be supplied where the suit to be amended. Whatever lie you think Apple is guilty of, there doesn't appear to be any sign of it amongst the material of the suit. Going…

I don't think the court ended up considering the main point, which is that Apple had no evidence that H2F's units specifically were fake.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by dsl »

kyrra wrote: post #14
dsl wrote: post #12

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It looks like just the headers, not the actual source code. Also iBoot is basically the "BIOS" of the phone. Just enough to get it up and running and then load iOS into memory and kick it off, so it wouldn't have drivers for things like the touch screen or accelerometer for example.

https://github.com/h1x0rz3r0/iBoot/blob/master/platform/s5l8... I'd disagree, this includes source code.

I was referring to the directory the grand-parent referred to. Of course there is source in other places.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Post by imron »

zie wrote: post #89
imron wrote: post #47

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There's also the fact that if you have an exploit for a recent iPhone, that can sell for upwards of a million dollars (edit: $1.5 million for a remote jailbreak with persistence: https://www.zerodium.com/program.html ). If you have the capabilities to hack the iPhone you are then faced with a question - do you release it for free or do you sell it for a million dollars. A million dollars is life changing enough that…

You presumably could do both, sell it for a million dollars, and then send an email to apple as well. I'm sure the terms of the sale stipulate you can't share it with anyone else, but if you can hack the iPhone but can't figure out how to send anonymous email to Apple, you are doing something wrong.

According to zerodium's faq, there are bonuses for exploits that meet specific lifespan requirements.
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