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Re: Reddit bans 'deepfakes' AI porn communities

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Post by numismatex »

falcolas wrote: post #29
codingdave wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> people are still 100% within their rights to combine images legally obtained in this way. And post them online. Are they? If you distribute movies and media to the public, you normally are breaking laws. (Hence the infamous FBI warning on movies for a couple decades now.) Likewise, you cannot just use people's likeness in marketing and other public uses without their permission. So I'm not at all sure that just bec…

> Likewise, you cannot just use people's likeness in marketing and other public uses without their permission. Tell that to Prince and Peter Cushing. ;)

You can use most images without permission if it's not for profit, or for editorial purposes and many news-use and creative works fall into these categories. They can sue for defamation, but yeah...

Re: Reddit bans 'deepfakes' AI porn communities

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Post by ric2b »

llukas wrote: post #64
superkuh wrote: post #42

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Luckily in the free world we don't need "rights" in order to do things. In third world countries people are often put in prison for photoshoping their leaders. Hopefully this trend towards that kind of authoritarianism doesn't continue in the west.

Did you really just mix for profit deepfake porn with fight for political freedom?

for profit? who said anything about this being for profit? I don't think it is

Re: Reddit bans 'deepfakes' AI porn communities

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Post by Steel_Phoenix »

llukas wrote: post #17
excalibur wrote: post #13

Fake porn of celebrities has been prevalent on the Internet for a long time. I don't have precise statistics, but I think it might predate the web. For the most part it hasn't been particularly controversial. Now that advances in technology have significantly improved the quality, everybody suddenly has a problem with it. Let's back this up a few steps. You're an actor, you appear on television. By being filmed and a…

> And post them online. Mass redistribution of somebody image is not a "right".

What do you think freedom of the press refers to? It's the printing press. Literally designed for the sole purpose of mass redistribution.

Re: Reddit bans 'deepfakes' AI porn communities

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Post by JohnTHaller »

codingdave wrote: post #20
excalibur wrote: post #13

Fake porn of celebrities has been prevalent on the Internet for a long time. I don't have precise statistics, but I think it might predate the web. For the most part it hasn't been particularly controversial. Now that advances in technology have significantly improved the quality, everybody suddenly has a problem with it. Let's back this up a few steps. You're an actor, you appear on television. By being filmed and a…

> people are still 100% within their rights to combine images legally obtained in this way. And post them online. Are they? If you distribute movies and media to the public, you normally are breaking laws. (Hence the infamous FBI warning on movies for a couple decades now.) Likewise, you cannot just use people's likeness in marketing and other public uses without their permission. So I'm not at all sure that just bec…

If I film someone in public, even though I own the copyright on the film since I shot it, I still need to get them to sign a release to be able to utilize their likeness in my work. It's not a simple black and white issue and we'll need laws to catch up to address it. Claiming everything as "transformative" and thus you own the copyright as some do is silly. Otherwise, it would be legal for me to take everyone's Facebook pictures and "transform" them by putting them into the AI and sell the resulting AI porn.

Re: Reddit bans 'deepfakes' AI porn communities

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Post by typomatic »

prepend wrote: post #44
typomatic wrote: post #25

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Usually people use the slippery slope to avoid things, not encourage a descent into depravity, but to each their own. In any case, you shouldn't pretend as if this is morally okay just because you can focus in on each individual step and find a way to justify it. There are a lot of crimes that clearly fall into this bucket: stalking, for example. Any one interaction may be innocent, but it's the sum total of actions…

This is an interesting final opinion. Can you explain your reasoning? I’d like to understand more about why you dislike this? This idea of altering images has always confused me. When I was a kid, I got a scanner and a printer. The first thing I did was take a picture of a Battletech Griffin 55 ton battlemech (a giant war robot) and replaced the robot head with that of my mom, titling it “Grifmom.” I thought it was a…

I dislike this because I have respect for human beings instead of applying moral rules like a robot.

Re: Reddit bans 'deepfakes' AI porn communities

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Post by sctb »

irrational wrote: post #31
typomatic wrote: post #25

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Usually people use the slippery slope to avoid things, not encourage a descent into depravity, but to each their own. In any case, you shouldn't pretend as if this is morally okay just because you can focus in on each individual step and find a way to justify it. There are a lot of crimes that clearly fall into this bucket: stalking, for example. Any one interaction may be innocent, but it's the sum total of actions…

If you endorse distributing naked pictures, you are a bad person, no matter your line of reasoning. FTFY

Please stop posting unsubstantively.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Reddit bans 'deepfakes' AI porn communities

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Post by prepend »

typomatic wrote: post #85
prepend wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an interesting final opinion. Can you explain your reasoning? I’d like to understand more about why you dislike this? This idea of altering images has always confused me. When I was a kid, I got a scanner and a printer. The first thing I did was take a picture of a Battletech Griffin 55 ton battlemech (a giant war robot) and replaced the robot head with that of my mom, titling it “Grifmom.” I thought it was a…

I dislike this because I have respect for human beings instead of applying moral rules like a robot.

That’s interesting. How is editing an image of someone and not even showing them disrespectful.

Do you imagine others naked? Is that disrespectful?

It’s really interesting hearing about other people’s mora systems.

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