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Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Post by jdavis703 »

andy_ppp wrote: post #28

I said a while back they were optimising their algorithm for rage and that The Donald would be good for business. I think they are probably still buy because I suspect they will be bought - such a feature of the Internet it is hard to imagine a conversation, TV show or live event without it.

Are you active on Twitter? I'm not saying you're not, I'm just genuinely curious on what other's filter bubble experience looks like. For me most of what I see is related to state and local politics, and policy wonk issues. But I've also managed to curate my feed. Except for when something really big happens, my feed honestly does not feel to be full of rage. I wonder if your interactions send some kind of signal to Twitter that rage Tweets are what keep you most engaged?

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Post by augustt »

trs80 wrote: post #26
Steeeve wrote: post #18

Twitter loves Trump. It's not just twitter... the whole profit center around online communities is based on active communities. Most topics are cyclical - once the Superbowl is over, it's hard to keep a football community active. Only so many people are interested in the draft, in coaching changes, etc. But throw in some controversy and all of a sudden everything lights up again. The problem, or _a_ problem, is that…

>Twitter loves Trump. Hidden camera investigations[1] into Twitter employees suggest otherwise. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64gTjdUrDFQ

Ah yes... this guy https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/11/3...

Great source.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Post by gaius »

andy_ppp wrote: post #28

I said a while back they were optimising their algorithm for rage and that The Donald would be good for business. I think they are probably still buy because I suspect they will be bought - such a feature of the Internet it is hard to imagine a conversation, TV show or live event without it.

they were optimising their algorithm for rage

The humans think this is “engagement” but the algorithm knows the truth.

Phillip Morris is also profitable...

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Post by zimpenfish »

jdavis703 wrote: post #41
andy_ppp wrote: post #28

I said a while back they were optimising their algorithm for rage and that The Donald would be good for business. I think they are probably still buy because I suspect they will be bought - such a feature of the Internet it is hard to imagine a conversation, TV show or live event without it.

Are you active on Twitter? I'm not saying you're not, I'm just genuinely curious on what other's filter bubble experience looks like. For me most of what I see is related to state and local politics, and policy wonk issues. But I've also managed to curate my feed. Except for when something really big happens, my feed honestly does not feel to be full of rage. I wonder if your interactions send some kind of signal to…

I am active on Twitter and have curated my feed to be full* of rage.

* Ok, more like 50-75% depending on what the Dumbass Gibbon or the Brexidiots have said/done recently.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Post by jxub »

It's amazing how tech companies and unicorns are valued. If they are losing, the public market or VC's cover their aes and their value stays neutral, and first signs of profit send the stocks to the moon.

That is also the behaviour of crypto, but in this case the stocks aren't overvalued to start with, as decades of inflation have done to stocks.

Looking from another side, in crypto we haven't developed a sound investing framework yet, other than the usual github/reddit/social/TA checks, possibly because we are dealing with a protocol, not a product.

The interesting thing here, and maybe a somewhat contrarian position to take in the Twitter case, is that they're not a tech company, but a protocol company. And their value can't be measured with a number, they're essentially playing the same field as TCP or IRC, which value we haven't measured.

I would be buying $TWTR stock, if it weren't for cryptos like VEN, GVT or REQ which may be equivalent to investing in Twitter in the seed phase. Actually, this line of thought is really interesting, I may write something longer and more coherent about this stuff.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Post by blauditore »

4lch3m1st wrote: post #29
Steeeve wrote: post #18

Twitter loves Trump. It's not just twitter... the whole profit center around online communities is based on active communities. Most topics are cyclical - once the Superbowl is over, it's hard to keep a football community active. Only so many people are interested in the draft, in coaching changes, etc. But throw in some controversy and all of a sudden everything lights up again. The problem, or _a_ problem, is that…

While I expect a lot of people to not agree with what I am going to say, I believe this is much more linked to the political moment than to Twitter having a problem with "handling controversy". This just feels like an excuse to find a way to filter human communication, at this point. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Brazilian and the latest years' politics headlines have been flooding Twitter around here too, but spurious p…

I think that's what the top comment was trying to say. High profile controversy like that prompts many people to react (either to disagree or to agree), which generates traffic and therefore helps the platform.

In addition, just the huge media coverage of Twitter (in the slipstream of Trump) is like a massive free ad campaign.

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Post by wbl »

jxub wrote: post #47

It's amazing how tech companies and unicorns are valued. If they are losing, the public market or VC's cover their a es and their value stays neutral, and first signs of profit send the stocks to the moon. That is also the behaviour of crypto, but in this case the stocks aren't overvalued to start with, as decades of inflation have done to stocks. Looking from another side, in crypto we haven't developed a sound inve…

How did being a protocol work out for DEC? Or Sun?

Re: Twitter Soars After Surprise Sales Gain, First Real Profit

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Post by hockeybias »

bad_user wrote: post #42

I've been very active on Twitter in the past 2 years and not due to Trump or other controversies. A lot of developers I want to follow are active on Twitter. So it might be due to Trump, don't know, but I'm glad it's going well for them.

I enjoy twitter for being able to promptly get links to news from newspaper people.
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