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Crushed wood is stronger than steel

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Re: Crushed wood is stronger than steel

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The title is completely false.

Metals are used for their material properties more than just strength but homogeneous strength and stiffness (in all directions) and tolerance to a wide range of environmental conditions (thermal and moisture cycling)

Not to mention ease of manufacturing.

The material described in the article will never make it out of the lab.

Re: Crushed wood is stronger than steel

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The title is completely false. Metals are used for their material properties more than just strength but homogeneous strength and stiffness (in all directions) and tolerance to a wide range of environmental conditions (thermal and moisture cycling) Not to mention ease of manufacturing. The material described in the article will never make it out of the lab.

...products like this already exist, so maybe it will just lead to a refinement of an existing process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardboard

Re: Crushed wood is stronger than steel

#6
The most expensive wooden floors have the end grain exposed facing upwards and this is then compressed down, much like the top of a good quality butchers block. Those floors are just about indestructible.

The heavier such floors are used the stronger they get!

The wood in the article is compressed crosswise to the grain (so they get thinner rather than shorter), using the original planks as the raw organic material to produce an engineered product that has relatively little to do with the original wood. While this is very impressive the process does not sound cheap (it is time consuming and will produce quite a bit of toxic waste) and the way the article is worded leaves it ambiguous of the strength increase is relative to the original base material or if it is on an absolute scale using the same cross section.

The article states the result is 10 times stronger than the original after being compressed to 1/5th of the size, making it effectively thinner, lighter and stronger at the same time.

It appears that the increase in density is where the writer missed the fact that reducing the cross section but leaving the amount of material the same does not result in an increase in strength on an absolute scale, it merely means that if you then laminated five of the densified planks back to the original cross section the result would be 11 times stronger.

But then you'd lose much of the weight advantage.

So I suspect this is either a space or a strength gain, but not both to the extent the article indicates.

In the previous century there was a lot of research done on strengthening wood including gamma radiation and all kinds of other treatments, but none of those ever made it to very high levels of industrial adoption.

Re: Crushed wood is stronger than steel

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The title is completely false. Metals are used for their material properties more than just strength but homogeneous strength and stiffness (in all directions) and tolerance to a wide range of environmental conditions (thermal and moisture cycling) Not to mention ease of manufacturing. The material described in the article will never make it out of the lab.

I broadly agree with you, but I think your being a little bit harsh. If the material is sufficiently robust to environmental conditions, then there is room for a strong, directionally biased material. It just won't broadly replace steel (or other alloys). It could find useful niche applications.

If its environmentally stable.

For example, carbon fiber has so many other nice properties that we'll put up with its directional strength and weave it.

Really, this isn't a bid to replace steel or al, but a bid to replace carbon fiber.

Re: Crushed wood is stronger than steel

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The title is completely false. Metals are used for their material properties more than just strength but homogeneous strength and stiffness (in all directions) and tolerance to a wide range of environmental conditions (thermal and moisture cycling) Not to mention ease of manufacturing. The material described in the article will never make it out of the lab.

Engineered wood has been a thing for over 100 years. Wood has a lot of desirable properties that make it a good construction material (fire resistance for instance is much better than steel).

This article is definitely missing the wood for the trees to some extent, but it is an interesting development and even if the gain isn't going to be quite as large as indicated and there are some serious questions about whether it will scale or not that does not mean it isn't interesting research.

But I agree with you that this is not exactly around the corner for mass production, a whole pile of problems would need to be solved and after they are the product may well end up not being economically viable.

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