Chinese police don high-tech glasses to nab suspects

Post by goatsi » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 4:43 AM UTC

danschumann wrote: post #27

jorblumesea wrote: post #24

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You realize this is China, the same government that literally ground their citizens to a paste with tanks? Idk why everyone is talking about this in such impartial terms, this is a totalitarian state that has no concept of civil liberties. The idea that this is going to be used just for mere criminals is a pipe dream. Unless you classify criminals as those who disagree with the CPC. This is going to be used to repres…

"The same government that..." -- Hmm, I think government is comprised of people, and the people that did that have likely aged out. This government is like the son or daughter of that government. And this government has realized many free market principles (and certainly many other lessons). It's not the same, nor totally different. Either way, I have to talk about it impartially, as if I were contemplating its use i…

Post by deegles » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 4:45 AM UTC

danschumann wrote: post #28

wonder_er wrote: post #26

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I can't help but disagree with your 99.999% assessment. I feel like at best it might be 50%. At which point, it's horrible for society to be rolling the dice on every person in prison, if they should be there or not. I would refer you to the Innocence Project [0] for a useful exposition of wrongful convictions, and error rates therein. [0] https://www.innocenceproject.org/cases/

I don't know, I feel like neighborhoods where no one has outstanding warrants would be more desirable than neighborhoods with many.

Post by goatsi » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 4:48 AM UTC

mc32 wrote: post #3

I get why human rights orgs would want to speak against this technology, from a Western philosophy and law perspective. China does not have the same philosophical or legal lineage. They will have to find out on their own whether the cons outweigh the pros. Theoretically, if the system is not corrupted by misinformation (false or incomplete information), it has the potential to keep the streets free of wanted criminal…

Post by jorblumesea » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 4:50 AM UTC

danschumann wrote: post #32

jorblumesea wrote: post #29

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China is a totalitarian state with lip service to the free market. No one believes China has any of the freedoms it espouses. It's about as "free market" as a ponzi scheme with zero transparency into its markets, debt, companies, etc. Generation means nothing because they select for true believers. The same people crushing people with tanks got promotions and are now running the government. Like...you're so far off f…

I've hardly said anything about China. You've however said it is completely equivalent to running people over with tanks. I think you are slightly off the deep end, and you view my moderateness as the opposite of your view, when I merely am a less extreme version. Haha. You.

Post by kristofferR » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 4:55 AM UTC

danschumann wrote: post #22

I think we romanticize "being on the lamb". For the 99.999% of the time, if someone is a "wanted man", it's much better for society if he is apprehended. I don't see this as a threat. If, however, every innocent person were tracked, and crimes were generated based on observations ( like souped up red-light cameras for every imaginable crime ), and charges were created automatically ( and algorithmically ), that would…