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Re: Chinese police don high-tech glasses to nab suspects

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Post by mc32 »

allthenews wrote: post #9
mc32 wrote: post #3

I get why human rights orgs would want to speak against this technology, from a Western philosophy and law perspective. China does not have the same philosophical or legal lineage. They will have to find out on their own whether the cons outweigh the pros. Theoretically, if the system is not corrupted by misinformation (false or incomplete information), it has the potential to keep the streets free of wanted criminal…

Do you believe that the will of the Chinese Government is representative of the will of the Chinese citizenry?

Yes and no.

By that I mean, I understand they don't have a political say. They don't get to "vote on the issues" like others might [the party makes those decisions]. At the same time, I would tend to think if you put the question to your Chinese on the street over there they will favor this technology (and its use) with a few conscientious objectors who will be few and far between.

Re: Chinese police don high-tech glasses to nab suspects

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Post by ziikutv »

mc32 wrote: post #3

I get why human rights orgs would want to speak against this technology, from a Western philosophy and law perspective. China does not have the same philosophical or legal lineage. They will have to find out on their own whether the cons outweigh the pros. Theoretically, if the system is not corrupted by misinformation (false or incomplete information), it has the potential to keep the streets free of wanted criminal…

I personally do not believe the tech is as `high-tech` they say as it is. Its not easy to get someone's bio information just from a small camera. Edit: Think some of this might be BS fluff stuff.

More importantly, I do not think it would help to catch people that much other than further police's assumptions as to who is a criminal (if all they have is name, gender, address, ethnicity). Even putting that concern to the side, think about how many people a foot solder can "scan" on a crowded train station.

Re: Chinese police don high-tech glasses to nab suspects

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Post by speeq »

globuous wrote: post #6

Rob Lake's comment is pretty spot on (I'm taking the liberty to repost w/o his authorization): ""The app brings up the suspect’s vital information, including name, ethnicity, gender and address." Presumably version 2 of the app will also pop up the person's social credit score." That being said, this will definitely come to the west sooner or later. I mean, doesn't London already have cameras at every street corner f…

> I mean, doesn't London already have cameras at every street corner for instance ?

I'm concerned about things like these in the UK:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016#...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2017#React...

Re: Chinese police don high-tech glasses to nab suspects

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Post by guildenstern »

globuous wrote: post #6

Rob Lake's comment is pretty spot on (I'm taking the liberty to repost w/o his authorization): ""The app brings up the suspect’s vital information, including name, ethnicity, gender and address." Presumably version 2 of the app will also pop up the person's social credit score." That being said, this will definitely come to the west sooner or later. I mean, doesn't London already have cameras at every street corner f…

Most cameras in the U.K. are privately owned and operated with no central system.

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Post by sundvor »

TFA: "The app brings up the (scanned person's) vital information, including name, ethnicity, gender and address (..), the address of the hotel where they are staying and information related to their internet usage."

Wow. So just by looking at you, they can see how often you visit Hacker News - or what else.

Scary as.

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Post by nine_k »

sundvor wrote: post #16

TFA: "The app brings up the (scanned person's) vital information, including name, ethnicity, gender and address (..), the address of the hotel where they are staying and information related to their internet usage." Wow. So just by looking at you, they can see how often you visit Hacker News - or what else. Scary as.

Used VPN much? Tried to open suspicious sites? Issued suspicious search queries?

A potential target for a harmonization effort.

Re: Chinese police don high-tech glasses to nab suspects

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Post by ShabbosGoy »

ziikutv wrote: post #12
mc32 wrote: post #3

I get why human rights orgs would want to speak against this technology, from a Western philosophy and law perspective. China does not have the same philosophical or legal lineage. They will have to find out on their own whether the cons outweigh the pros. Theoretically, if the system is not corrupted by misinformation (false or incomplete information), it has the potential to keep the streets free of wanted criminal…

I personally do not believe the tech is as `high-tech` they say as it is. Its not easy to get someone's bio information just from a small camera. Edit: Think some of this might be BS fluff stuff. More importantly, I do not think it would help to catch people that much other than further police's assumptions as to who is a criminal (if all they have is name, gender, address, ethnicity). Even putting that concern to th…

FaceID samples are generated from a very small camera.

It’s trivial to train a CNN image classifier that can identify an individual, even when they are wearing a hat, grew facial hair, have a scar, etc

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