John Perry Barlow has died • Hacker News Board

Re: John Perry Barlow has died

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Post by xj9 » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:40 AM UTC

irrational wrote: post #16

Dangeranger wrote: post #11

A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace by John Perry Barlow Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather. We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one, so I address you with no greater…

Wow, that's one of the most idealistic statements I've ever read. Too bad we ended up with the WWW of today instead.

ended up? it isn't over yet. we only lose if we stop trying to build a better cyberspace

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Post by oska » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:43 AM UTC

I don't know exactly what the criteria for putting a black banner line on HN is, but I was a bit surprised to not see one here today after hearing of this loss.

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Post by kankroc » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:45 AM UTC

mattl wrote: post #27

JPB on meeting a partner on an evening when he was due to roast Steve Jobs at a NeXT Expo. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/74/transcript#act3

Definitely worth a read.

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Post by jimjimjim » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:46 AM UTC

The world seems a little bit darker.

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Post by jimjimjim » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:49 AM UTC

nkurz wrote: post #30

staunch wrote: post #13

His Principles for Adult Behavior is hard-earned wisdom: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1kgmes/i_am_john_perr...

Wow. And succinct enough that I’ll quote them in full: ADULT PRINCIPLES -John Perry Barlow 1 Be patient. No matter what. 2 Don't badmouth: Assign responsibility, not blame. Say nothing of another you wouldn't say to him. 3 Never assume the motives of others are, to them, less noble than yours are to you. 4 Expand your sense of the possible. 5 Don't trouble yourself with matters you truly cannot change. 6 Don't ask mo…

people in power need to be rated against these principles.

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Post by jimjimjim » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:52 AM UTC

daveheq wrote: post #47

pixelmonkey wrote: post #7

Here's a link to his "A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace" from 1996, published 22 years ago tomorrow: https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence I always loved these bits: "Cyberspace consists of transactions, relationships, and thought itself, arrayed like a standing wave in the web of our communications." And: "Your increasingly obsolete information industries would perpetuate themselves by proposing…

This declaration sounds like an excuse to surf cp

what is wrong with you?

Re: John Perry Barlow has died

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:54 AM UTC

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Post by insaneirish » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:56 AM UTC

  The black-throated wind keeps on pouring in.
  And it speaks of a life that passes like dew.
  It's forced me to see that you've done better by me,
  Better by me than I've done by you.

http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/btwi.html

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Post by chrisseldo » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 4:01 AM UTC

Nothing to tell now / let the words be yours / I am done with mine.

A champion of freedom. RIP.

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Post by myth_drannon » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 4:02 AM UTC

mattl wrote: post #27

JPB on meeting a partner on an evening when he was due to roast Steve Jobs at a NeXT Expo. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/74/transcript#act3

Thanks. Very emotional read.