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Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

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Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

#31
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How does one start lifting weights or exercising when you have no motivation to.

Get a gym buddy, could be any friend that wants to hit the gym too or one that already goes and doesn't mind you tagging along. Don't have to workout together, you just want someone not to disappoint and text when you want to flake.

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#32

Protein is good, but not too much from meat: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27479196 > CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE: > High animal protein intake was positively associated with cardiovascular mortality and high plant protein intake was inversely associated with all-cause and cardiovascular mortality, especially among individuals with at least 1 lifestyle risk factor. Substitution of plant protein for animal protein…

Thanks. Do you know of any naturally-high-in-protein plant-based source that isn't soy (i.e. tofu etc) or hemp?

Asking cos I've had a hard time finding protein dense plant based alternatives, and as a vegetarian, it's really hard to get a lot of proteins from plant-based sources without processed stuff like Vega etc.

I do eat quinoa but 1) it's very expensive and 2) you have to eat 2 or 3 cups of cooked quinoa to get like 25 gms of protein which is a lot of quinoa per day.

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#33
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many people who smoke have lived into their 90s. That's not a good reason to smoke. Anecdotes are not data.

Data is not the whole picture. Maybe more protein is great for adding muscle mass, and bad for a different reason... The article lists beef as it's first source of protein besides protein shakes. Beef is a class 2A carcinogen. I stopped reading there.

I saw "Beef is a class 2A carcinogen" and suspect you just watched "What the health"? If so there are claims that that movie got a few things wrong. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-health-a-movie-wit...

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#35

Protein is good, but not too much from meat: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27479196 > CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE: > High animal protein intake was positively associated with cardiovascular mortality and high plant protein intake was inversely associated with all-cause and cardiovascular mortality, especially among individuals with at least 1 lifestyle risk factor. Substitution of plant protein for animal protein…

Thanks. Do you know of any naturally-high-in-protein plant-based source that isn't soy (i.e. tofu etc) or hemp? Asking cos I've had a hard time finding protein dense plant based alternatives, and as a vegetarian, it's really hard to get a lot of proteins from plant-based sources without processed stuff like Vega etc. I do eat quinoa but 1) it's very expensive and 2) you have to eat 2 or 3 cups of cooked quinoa to get…

I think there have even been studies that correlate all protein intake (regardless of source) inversely with longevity, so I try not to get too worked up about not having a meal with a lot of it. Beans, lentils, peanuts, etc. have a decent amount of protein, but even bread has protein and nowadays it's not hard to find high fiber, high protein bread. I love meat so this is all difficult, and I hope to eat less over time. I think it's a balance between the short-term benefits of protein (energy, muscle) and the long term effects of high protein consumption (tough on your organs).

Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

#36
post #3

How does one start lifting weights or exercising when you have no motivation to.

If you have the budget, hire a personal trainer for 1-2 hours/week. It's not cheap, but having to make the appointment or lose the money you spent is a huge motivator. They'll probably work you harder than you would work alone as well as enforce good form. I got started lifting weights this way.

Then you'll be motivated to work out on your own to save money.

Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

#37
post #3

How does one start lifting weights or exercising when you have no motivation to.

If you can't find motivation, try obligation. Either fiscal, personal, schedule, etc.

For me, I have found if I put something such that I have to do it, it typically gets done. Just making it so that I want to...

Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

#38
post #3

How does one start lifting weights or exercising when you have no motivation to.

I’m an undergrad, and I’ve only very rarely worked out in the past. I just wanted to share how I feel about this today. I’ll be going for my second time today.

I think some important factors for this:

- It feels good

- I’m feeling sad and am looking to feel better

- I’m not feeling too physically tired. Last night I worked out, and this morning I worked out. I feel strong and as if I have enough energy to work out

- I am not distracted with stress about any obligations (when I am stressed/distracted, I tend to forget to do certain things or will badly time manage)

I think the main factors are that I am looking to feel better and I feel somewhat energetic because I worked out last night and today.

I have wondered how to solve this problem last month. I thought about how, through school and social norms, we learn to not react to our urge to move (and movement can bring pleasure). It’s important to react to our urge to move, to have a reflex. I might be developing that now, because as I wrote, I’m goingbecause I want to feel better.

Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

#39

We get these type of fads every decade. Cholesterol was bad for you then fats were bad for you. Then it was running. Then hiking. It never ends. My grandparents lived well into their 90s. All you have to do is eat well and try to be active from time to time. But there is a growing weightlifting movement with a healthy marketing budget...

Anecdotes are not facts. Cholesterol and most fats are still generally bad for you, it's not so black and white, it never is or was. It's not an excuse to stuff yourself with cheeseburgers.

Re: Lift Weights, Eat More Protein, Especially If You’re Over 40

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> The impacts of this extra protein were not enormous. Almost everyone who started or continued weight training became stronger in these studies, whether they ate more protein or not. But those who did ramp up their protein gained an extra 10 percent or so in strength and about 25 percent in muscle mass compared to the control groups. Maybe it's me, but 10% extra performance and 25% extra muscle mass sounds like quit…

* RET = Resistance Exercise Training

* 1RM = 1 Repetition Maximum Strength

"The average RET-induced increase, with all measures of 1RM included, was 27kg (mean±SD; 27±22kg22 32). Notably, dietary protein supplementation augmented the increase in 1RM strength by 2.49kg (9%; figure 2; see online supplementary figure 4), which strongly suggests that the practice of RET is a far more potent stimulus for increasing muscle strength than the addition of dietary protein supplementation."

"In addition to increasing changes in muscle strength, RET alone (≥6; 13±8weeks) resulted in an increase in FFM (1.1 ± 1.2kg), an increase in fibre CSA (808±) and an increase in mid-femur CSA (52±30mm2). Dietary protein supplementation augmented the increase in FFM by 0.30kg (27%), fibre CSA by 310µm2 (38%) and mid-femur CSA by 7.2mm2 (14%). The postexercise protein dose did not affect the efficacy of protein supplementation on RET-induced changes in FFM whereas training status (positive), age (negative) and baseline protein intake (positive) did. Relative to untrained participants, resistance-trained participants have a smaller potential for muscle growth and an attenuated postexercise muscle protein turnover. As a result, we speculate that trained persons may have less ‘degrees of freedom’ to change with RET and therefore have a greater need for protein supplementation to see increases in muscle mass. Our thesis is supported by the observation of a more consistent impact of protein supplementation on gains in FFM in resistance-trained individuals than in novice trainees."

So working out regularly increases your 1-rep max lift by 27kg. Supplementing with protein can increases that max that by 2.5kg. Resistance exercise can increase your muscle mass by 1.1kg and protein can increase muscle mass further by 0.3kg. There was no difference past a protein dose of 1.6g/kg/day and supplementation mainly benefit those starting from a higher point of muscle mass and strength.

http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/bjsports/early/2018/01/18/bjspor...

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