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Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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Could you elaborate on parts of traditional culture that you think are under attack and are valuable enough to protect ?

Absolutely every single part of it? Have you stepped outside, or spoken to anyone in the country that isn't a part of the coastal bourgeoisie?

Considering that traditional culture in my perspective includes racism, sexism, and homophobia, I'll have to pass on whatever point you're trying to make right now

Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate on parts of traditional culture that you think are under attack and are valuable enough to protect ?

Absolutely every single part of it? Have you stepped outside, or spoken to anyone in the country that isn't a part of the coastal bourgeoisie?

For the purpose of conversation could you actually give a few examples of what you're talking about ?.

Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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What is interesting to me is that this comes on a day when Bloomberg says "Americans are spending less on clothing". Full discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16322720

Combining the ideas of both posts: You can spend less if you buy more targeted-to-you and higher-quality items that you'll wear more often. Finding these items and customers is a data (and marketing) problem. E.g. I spend less overall than I did a few years ago but each item I buy is more expensive. I've learned the value in quality clothes. I give smaller batches of more money to well-picked retailers rather than lo…

But aren't you wearing the same thing over and over? What's the point of quality clothes people see so often they think it is dirty or that you own three shirts? I just buy cheap clothes.

Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Combining the ideas of both posts: You can spend less if you buy more targeted-to-you and higher-quality items that you'll wear more often. Finding these items and customers is a data (and marketing) problem. E.g. I spend less overall than I did a few years ago but each item I buy is more expensive. I've learned the value in quality clothes. I give smaller batches of more money to well-picked retailers rather than lo…

But aren't you wearing the same thing over and over? What's the point of quality clothes people see so often they think it is dirty or that you own three shirts? I just buy cheap clothes.

"less clothes" could be 5-8 shirts, which is fine. You don't often see the same person outside of work every single day anyway

Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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post #8

What is interesting to me is that this comes on a day when Bloomberg says "Americans are spending less on clothing". Full discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16322720

Such trends may affect the big players, but for small emerging companies there is still much market share to gain from competitors.

Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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Combining the ideas of both posts: You can spend less if you buy more targeted-to-you and higher-quality items that you'll wear more often. Finding these items and customers is a data (and marketing) problem. E.g. I spend less overall than I did a few years ago but each item I buy is more expensive. I've learned the value in quality clothes. I give smaller batches of more money to well-picked retailers rather than lo…

But aren't you wearing the same thing over and over? What's the point of quality clothes people see so often they think it is dirty or that you own three shirts? I just buy cheap clothes.

3 is probably too few. People don't really pay that much attention to what you wear, I promise.

I usually wear my shirts twice and take them to the dry-cleaner after. I'll only go once if it's been a hot day or if the shirt has dirt/stains. Maybe 3 times if I didn't wear it all day.

Plus I have about 7 pairs of high-quality pants that work well in an office and are comfortable for weekends. Most shirts go with most pants. So I have like 70 outfits so it really doesn't feel limiting, especially if you add in a few sweaters, jackets, and shoes to bring the combinations way up.

I did the math on this once to figure out cost-per-wear of my shirts. I kept rough track of how many times I wore a favorite shirt of mine before tossing it. Roughly 100 times. The shirt was like $120. I paid about $0.75 per wear in drycleaning. So like $1.75/wear.

(I could wash and iron for myself to bring this way down to like $1/wear but I hate ironing so I just pay the drycleaner - I also could have gone another 50 or so wears but I spilled coffee on it and I could always see the stain even though nobody else could I'm sure.)

Compare that with a cheap H&M shirt I bought a few years ago for like $40 - I've worn it twice and don't look forward to wearing it again since it doesn't fit as well and is a bit too trendy in its style for me. Cost is like $20/wear. Save your money and buy higher-quality clothes :)

Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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Was this the main point of the story? - "At some point, we were lucky to get noticed by the App Store team, and we’ve been featured as App of the Day throughout the world"

I read an interesting story on how to build a modern data-based product.

What’s a non-data-based product?

Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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But aren't you wearing the same thing over and over? What's the point of quality clothes people see so often they think it is dirty or that you own three shirts? I just buy cheap clothes.

3 is probably too few. People don't really pay that much attention to what you wear, I promise. I usually wear my shirts twice and take them to the dry-cleaner after. I'll only go once if it's been a hot day or if the shirt has dirt/stains. Maybe 3 times if I didn't wear it all day. Plus I have about 7 pairs of high-quality pants that work well in an office and are comfortable for weekends. Most shirts go with most p…

Your H&M example isn't great. The reason you didn't wear it a lot isn't because of the quality, but because you bought a shirt you didn't like. Save your money and only buy clothing you like.

Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3 is probably too few. People don't really pay that much attention to what you wear, I promise. I usually wear my shirts twice and take them to the dry-cleaner after. I'll only go once if it's been a hot day or if the shirt has dirt/stains. Maybe 3 times if I didn't wear it all day. Plus I have about 7 pairs of high-quality pants that work well in an office and are comfortable for weekends. Most shirts go with most p…

Your H&M example isn't great. The reason you didn't wear it a lot isn't because of the quality, but because you bought a shirt you didn't like. Save your money and only buy clothing you like.

That's a very good point! You'll save a lot of money by being selective about what you buy.

I think I got suckered into the H&M marketing - it looked quite nice in store and it even felt nice the first time I wore it. But then I realized it only really went with one or two other things, and it didn't look quite as good after being dry-cleaned/washed, so it quickly lost most of its appeal.

Re: Growing from 0 to 4M users on our fashion app with vertical machine learning

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your H&M example isn't great. The reason you didn't wear it a lot isn't because of the quality, but because you bought a shirt you didn't like. Save your money and only buy clothing you like.

That's a very good point! You'll save a lot of money by being selective about what you buy. I think I got suckered into the H&M marketing - it looked quite nice in store and it even felt nice the first time I wore it. But then I realized it only really went with one or two other things, and it didn't look quite as good after being dry-cleaned/washed, so it quickly lost most of its appeal.

> it didn't look quite as good after being dry-cleaned/washed

This is another reason to spend more money on clothes: quality materials look good as they age. I bought a Old Navy pullover which only lasted 2-3 washes before pilling like crazy.

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