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Re: How Will I Measure My Life?

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Post by techiferous »

sgentle wrote: post #23

"many of the things that make life worth living aren’t measurable at all, or if they are measurable then they aren’t comparable. How many dinners with family equal one random act of kindness?" I think there is a dangerous mysticism in this idea of the immeasurable, incomparable, and unfalsifiable value judgement. It may be difficult to reason about the value of family dinners or acts of kindness, and more difficult s…

"dangerous", "worse", "rotten"...

The tone of your response has piqued my curiosity more than the content of your response. Why such a strong, negative reaction?

Re: How Will I Measure My Life?

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Post by ielfkd »

You will need a unit of life. If you have figured out what it is then you can measure life.

Could unit of life be

money? time? number of pizza's u ate? number of babies u had?

Or are they binary in nature?

Happy or Unhappy, Satisfied or Unsatisfied, Enjoyed or Not Enjoyed. Fulfilled or Unfulfilled?

What could it be?

Re: How Will I Measure My Life?

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Post by enkid »

terminalcommand wrote: post #9
enkid wrote: post #4

This man is quantifying his life into two things, money and freetime, nothing about quantifying the quality of your time at work, nothing about happiness, and nothing about being an ethical person. What's the point of having all the money, and all the free time in the world if you're an unhappy jackass who hates his job?

I don't know if it is good to love your job. Anything that you do professionally has a tendency to get boring after a time. If you're working for someone else, that also constitutes a blow to your happiness. I think finding a sustainable balance should be sought after when looking for a job. Does the job let you disconnect? Does the job feel satisfying to you? Do you like the office environment? How much does it pay?…

Given the choice, I would like to do more than just make money when something takes the majority ( or a large minority) of my time. A job can have meaning, and for me that makes it a lot was it? We to wake up in the morning.

Re: How Will I Measure My Life?

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Post by AstralStorm »

wu-ikkyu wrote: post #60
frgtpsswrdlame wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I think there is a dangerous mysticism in this idea of the immeasurable, incomparable, and unfalsifiable value judgement. In what sense is it dangerous and in what sense is it mysticism? It's actually kind of an interesting philosophical question, I linked to some background reading at the end of this post. >Saying "my values are so complex that they cannot be reasoned about" is anti-intellectualism dressed up as pr…

>>I think there is a dangerous mysticism in this idea of the immeasurable, incomparable, and unfalsifiable value judgement. >In what sense is it dangerous and in what sense is it mysticism? Mysticism is dangerous because it challenges the status quo ideal of extreme materialism; that your worth as a human being is defined by the size of your bank account. E.g. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men ar…

Not really. Mysticism (in this unquantifiable form) does not challenge anything. It is instead based on acceptance that things are out of your control therefore not worth to quantify in quality or to judge.

A real mystic of this kind would practice a strong version of fate or destiny principle which essentially makes free will irrelevant.

To judge is to measure and quantify (or classify) in a less strict way.

Re: How Will I Measure My Life?

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AstralStorm wrote: post #66
wu-ikkyu wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>I think there is a dangerous mysticism in this idea of the immeasurable, incomparable, and unfalsifiable value judgement. >In what sense is it dangerous and in what sense is it mysticism? Mysticism is dangerous because it challenges the status quo ideal of extreme materialism; that your worth as a human being is defined by the size of your bank account. E.g. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men ar…

Not really. Mysticism (in this unquantifiable form) does not challenge anything. It is instead based on acceptance that things are out of your control therefore not worth to quantify in quality or to judge. A real mystic of this kind would practice a strong version of fate or destiny principle which essentially makes free will irrelevant. To judge is to measure and quantify (or classify) in a less strict way.

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Re: How Will I Measure My Life?

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Post by [deleted] »

AstralStorm wrote: post #66
wu-ikkyu wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>I think there is a dangerous mysticism in this idea of the immeasurable, incomparable, and unfalsifiable value judgement. >In what sense is it dangerous and in what sense is it mysticism? Mysticism is dangerous because it challenges the status quo ideal of extreme materialism; that your worth as a human being is defined by the size of your bank account. E.g. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men ar…

Not really. Mysticism (in this unquantifiable form) does not challenge anything. It is instead based on acceptance that things are out of your control therefore not worth to quantify in quality or to judge. A real mystic of this kind would practice a strong version of fate or destiny principle which essentially makes free will irrelevant. To judge is to measure and quantify (or classify) in a less strict way.

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Re: How Will I Measure My Life?

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Post by wu-ikkyu »

AstralStorm wrote: post #66
wu-ikkyu wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>I think there is a dangerous mysticism in this idea of the immeasurable, incomparable, and unfalsifiable value judgement. >In what sense is it dangerous and in what sense is it mysticism? Mysticism is dangerous because it challenges the status quo ideal of extreme materialism; that your worth as a human being is defined by the size of your bank account. E.g. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men ar…

Not really. Mysticism (in this unquantifiable form) does not challenge anything. It is instead based on acceptance that things are out of your control therefore not worth to quantify in quality or to judge. A real mystic of this kind would practice a strong version of fate or destiny principle which essentially makes free will irrelevant. To judge is to measure and quantify (or classify) in a less strict way.

Mystics are spiritualists by definition, which is opposed to materialism.
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