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Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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Not... really. The Donald/GamerGate/alt-right/troll factor has got immeasurably worse over the last 2 years. They’ve done nothing about it - in fact seem to tacitly be ok with it (preferring the useless “leave them in their own space” approach that has kept failing for years ) Reddit is doing far far worse than even Twitter at combatting these issues. At least Twitter seems to be (kinda ineffectually) trying.

> Reddit is doing far far worse than even Twitter at combatting these issues Do you have a source for this claim? Genuine question. Searching Google Scholar for "flame wars" or "Twitter Reddit sentiment" failed to produce anything useful.

Interesting paper (if a little tangential): https://conferences.sigcomm.org/imc/2017/papers/imc17-final1...

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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Interesting that he named his daughter after himself. I guess having a unisex name had its benefits. More importantly,I agree that reddit's public perception had changed a lot in the last year, it went from seeming like a boys club where others were tolerated to being totally nondinominational. Obviously there are still some subs that are pretty insular but for the most part as they've grown they've gotten nicer.

>reddit's public perception had changed a lot in the last year If this is true (and I don't believe it is), then they did a truly masterful job of scapegoating Ellen Pao and playing the PR game since her tenure.

Not sure why you're being downmodded. A lot has come to light about how Pao was scapegoated for many negative changes at reddit. Not a Pao fan, but what reddit did was dishonest.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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Not... really. The Donald/GamerGate/alt-right/troll factor has got immeasurably worse over the last 2 years. They’ve done nothing about it - in fact seem to tacitly be ok with it (preferring the useless “leave them in their own space” approach that has kept failing for years ) Reddit is doing far far worse than even Twitter at combatting these issues. At least Twitter seems to be (kinda ineffectually) trying.

That's laughable. We know for a fact the DNC was paying people to sit on Reddit all day long with talking points to sway public opinion. It's the failure of Reddit to be transparent about thier political goals. It's clear to anyone who isnt blind that in the last four years Reddit has been structurally attacked by the left and turned places like politics, world news, even conspiracy into liberal talking points.

Reddit is not even pretending to be fair and balanced. They lean far to the left (or pander to them) and the front page is often filled with anti-Trump, pro-Democrat propaganda.

Free and fair discussion is a lost cause on that platform, 45 has made anyone with conservative values an enemy.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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post #48

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As much as I don’t want to bring that particular debate here, this comment reads like anyone with conservative politics is a troll to be silenced. As someone who doesn’t agree, please understand how offensive and unconstructive this statement is.

Because those subs have absolutely nothign to do with conservative politics and everything to do with alt-right echo chamber trolling. There are plenty of places you can find polite political discourse on Reddit, like these: /r/PoliticalDiscussion/ And for logical, not emotional political debates: /r/AskAConservative /r/AskALiberal /r/DebateCommunism /r/DebateFascism /r/LibertarianDebates /r/DebateAnarchism

You include /r/politics on that list, which as we speak, has 100% of the front page dedicated to how horrible our president is. That is the absolute opposite of “thoughtful”, certainly not polite once you get into the comments and say anything that doesn't agree with that stance.

I’d give you echo chamber, but also point out that applies to most subreddits in your list, but especially to the ask_$ideology types. People celebrating their political wins isn’t trolling, neither is celebrating the losses of the other side. It might be many things, but posting to get a rise isn’t it.

It doesn't even make sense - people posting in their own communities about their own ideologies doesn't meet the definition either. Who would they be trolling, themselves? Oncomers who don't agree? If the latter, that applies to every political community everywhere.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not... really. The Donald/GamerGate/alt-right/troll factor has got immeasurably worse over the last 2 years. They’ve done nothing about it - in fact seem to tacitly be ok with it (preferring the useless “leave them in their own space” approach that has kept failing for years ) Reddit is doing far far worse than even Twitter at combatting these issues. At least Twitter seems to be (kinda ineffectually) trying.

As much as I don’t want to bring that particular debate here, this comment reads like anyone with conservative politics is a troll to be silenced. As someone who doesn’t agree, please understand how offensive and unconstructive this statement is.

All of those communities mentioned are not simply providing conservative viewpoints. The ones mentioned have coordinated harassment towards people and organizations that they disagree with.

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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post #26

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Maintaining civil order is everyone's responsibility, not merely professionals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles Denying a citizens obligation to be active member of the social order reduces us to passive objects in society. Why are you fighting copyright monopolies? You are doing free work for the any-copyright industry.

Really, copyright is about "civil order"? Interesting. This is the first time I have heard that particular justification for IPR. edit: ok, that's not true. the MPAA/RIAA advertisements do equate piracy with violent crime.

> Really, copyright is about "civil order"?

Good journalism boosts the quality of civic life. Journalism funded solely by advertising has a poor record. So we're left with public funding à la the BBC, or the patronage of billionaires, thereby sacrificing the Fourth Estate's independence; or subscriptions. The latter requires a solution to the free rider problem [1]. Paywalls, and the copyrights defending them, are one such solution.

I consume news from subscription sources (e.g. the Wall Street Journal and the Information), advertising-back sources (e.g. Politico) and subsidized sources (e.g. the BBC and Bloomberg). I benefit from that reading, as does, I believe, the greater society I live in. I think it's fair and rational to fight for said journalists' compensation.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-rider_problem

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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post #40

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Not... really. The Donald/GamerGate/alt-right/troll factor has got immeasurably worse over the last 2 years. They’ve done nothing about it - in fact seem to tacitly be ok with it (preferring the useless “leave them in their own space” approach that has kept failing for years ) Reddit is doing far far worse than even Twitter at combatting these issues. At least Twitter seems to be (kinda ineffectually) trying.

A lot of people have the opposite view though (reddit has gone too far down that path, and twitter is a lost cause). There are plenty of bad actors on both sides of this issue.

You’re going to get in trouble for using the words “on both sides”

I don’t think hacker news would say this but many would: “one side is literally Nazis”.. not a very thoughtful complaint

Re: Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian Steps Aside, Focuses on Initialized Capital

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I wondef how they manage to increase revenue. Their self serve ad manager looks like a joke.

It's likely that the largest advertisers don't use the self-serve ad manager. They call their rep who operates the system for them. This is why the self-serve ad managers for AdWords, Facebook Ads, etc. are all pretty unloved.
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