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Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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Re: Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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> This fundamental property of "show me only things from people I explicitly added, and show me everything they post (ideally in reverse chronological order)" is what many (myself included) seem to want from social media. > Sadly, it seems to be directly at odds with what companies want There is a companyless protocol for this exact functionality, RSS.

True but sadly my friends do not post pictures of their babies and vacations through RSS :(

Maybe a user-friendly, differential-privacy RSS feed-powered platform is what we need.

Re: Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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As a member of 18~23yo age group ("young person"), I would say snaps the only social media I enjoy using besides HN/reddit. Most young people I know use Facebook for groups (local like a school or city), events , and chat. IMO Facebook is shooting all of these feet off with the algorithmic newsfeed and spinning off messenger. Snap however is used constantly to keep up with peers. Haven't met a single person that uses…

How do they communicate when placed Infront of a computer? I see the appeal of snap with the younger crowd but the fact that it lives in a phone seems like a major con, sure it's easily fixed by allowing browser access. As someone who grew up on MSN & ICQ I couldn't imagine having to stop what I'm doing to pick up my phone every time I want to message someone.

I know a lot of kids in their 20s who like Discord.

Slack is much better, but Discord sunk its teeth into the gaming community and it spread.

Re: Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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why does every post about Snap seem to fill up with (what sounds like) astroturf? This comment section has at least five undisclosed Snap marketers posting and and voting in it or I'm a llama. Multiple comments in the top comment chain sound like a PM's cocktail party talking points.

I’ll be honest - I’m rooting for SNAP and I want to see them succeed. Anything to challenge the Facebook social monopoly and at least pretends to put on a facade of privacy.

lol, i don't know why you think snap will be any better or any better currently. They are all just advertising companies. Lets not be naive and really pretend one is really better than the other.

Re: Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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As a member of 18~23yo age group ("young person"), I would say snaps the only social media I enjoy using besides HN/reddit. Most young people I know use Facebook for groups (local like a school or city), events , and chat. IMO Facebook is shooting all of these feet off with the algorithmic newsfeed and spinning off messenger. Snap however is used constantly to keep up with peers. Haven't met a single person that uses…

That's very interesting, because in my age/location bubble (21/Denmark) it's the exact opposite. For every 30 Instagram stories, people post about 1 Snapchat story.

Talked to a friend yesterday who said that he forgot Snapchat even existed, and was installed on his phone, because he hadn't received a snap in a year.

Also, my younger siblings both use Snapchat and Messenger consistently, and are avid users of Facebook (because of meme tagging primarily).

Re: Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

True but sadly my friends do not post pictures of their babies and vacations through RSS :(

Maybe a user-friendly, differential-privacy RSS feed-powered platform is what we need.

Mastodon?

Re: Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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As a member of 18~23yo age group ("young person"), I would say snaps the only social media I enjoy using besides HN/reddit. Most young people I know use Facebook for groups (local like a school or city), events , and chat. IMO Facebook is shooting all of these feet off with the algorithmic newsfeed and spinning off messenger. Snap however is used constantly to keep up with peers. Haven't met a single person that uses…

I don't know a single person in Vietnam who uses Snapchat. Every person I've ever met uses Instagram. Everyone uses Facebook. Facebook Messenger is the most popular chat tool by a fair margin. No one ever sends a message by Snap or SMS.

We have a population of 100 million.

The world is bigger than just the US.

Indonesia, with a population of 260 million, also overwhelmingly prefers Facebook over Snapchat.

Re: Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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I absolutely hate Facebook, but I think Snap is really getting 'social media' right. There's no political nonsense or advertising being shoved down my throat, just endless cat videos and memes from my friends the way it should be. When my friends post something, it's guaranteed I will see it. There are options for group chat and 'forum' style communication, but the core experience is intimate and private. They're doi…

This fundamental property of "show me only things from people I explicitly added, and show me everything they post (ideally in reverse chronological order)" is what many (myself included) seem to want from social media. Sadly, it seems to be directly at odds with what companies want, because social networks often start off with having that property and lose it as they need to make the investors happy. - Facebook -> h…

algorithmic sorting increases monetization opportunities by several orders of magnitude, that's why they do it. Just fiddle with the algorithm to decrease reach of a certain group of users, then make those users pay for extra reach. Voila! You have a new revenue stream now. Facebook has showed that that's the winning monetization formula for social media.

Re: Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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True but sadly my friends do not post pictures of their babies and vacations through RSS :(

Maybe a user-friendly, differential-privacy RSS feed-powered platform is what we need.

Invite only blogs perhaps. That's basically facebook though. [0]

[0]: https://xkcd.com/1367/

Re: Snap Revenue Surges 72% on User Growth, Advertising Gains

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As a member of 18~23yo age group ("young person"), I would say snaps the only social media I enjoy using besides HN/reddit. Most young people I know use Facebook for groups (local like a school or city), events , and chat. IMO Facebook is shooting all of these feet off with the algorithmic newsfeed and spinning off messenger. Snap however is used constantly to keep up with peers. Haven't met a single person that uses…

Senior in HS/USA. No one at my HS uses Facebook. Some use instagram, but everyone is on Snapchat.
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