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In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

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Tell your friend to ask a lawyer and not a web forum.

Surely there could be a laywer on the vast world wide web.

Why would he or she want to expose themselves to liability for someone who isn't a client?

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This has been going on for decades, across the country. See also the Rampart Scandal [0] and the Allen v. City of Oakland [1] case in which cops in LA and Oakland respectively, robbed, beat kidnapped and otherwise victimized citizens. I hate to think what happens in small cities and towns where this stuff is even harder to report. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen…

I hate to think what happens in small cities and towns where this stuff is even harder to report. I'm not sure. I'm more familiar with the small town side of society, and I'd guess that it's much easier to hide this sort of behavior in a larger city. There's much less anonymity in a small town, and keeping this sort of behavior going would require "buy in" from the entire police force rather than just a nucleus of co…

Being a cop in a small town means you can beat your wife, kids or others with impunity.

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Why is there not more transparency? It makes zero sense. What is going to stop something like this occuring again? Officers going to jail?

There should be a body cam on every officer and their police powers and privileges should deactivate the moment its turned off deliberately or “accidentally”. A time delayed feed should be made public and an independent federal agency should randomly audit the recordings for civil rights abuses. Police should be treated like other political officials and there should be a democratic mechanism for the public to remove…

Where I'm from, police make $100k+ a year.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

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post #97

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There should be a body cam on every officer and their police powers and privileges should deactivate the moment its turned off deliberately or “accidentally”. A time delayed feed should be made public and an independent federal agency should randomly audit the recordings for civil rights abuses. Police should be treated like other political officials and there should be a democratic mechanism for the public to remove…

I wouldn't say sensible, unrealistic or implausible is closer. "Sorry madam the last person I dealt with broke my camera, I'm not a cop at the moment" Political policing departments... Hhmm you think the police equivalent of trump are going to be any less corrupt? I'm also sure housing the police where they work would definitely no in anyway make them, their family and property, any sort of target being as everyone l…

> Sorry madam the last person I dealt with broke my camera, I'm not a cop at the moment"

He could help in any way a normal citizen could help someone in trouble until another officer arrives with a working body cam.

> Political policing That’s not what I said.

What’s wrong with allowing the public to petition for a police officer to be fired?

> I'm also sure housing the police where they work would definitely no in anyway make them, their family and property, any sort of target being as everyone loves the police.

Everyone hates the police. That’s the point. It’s a lot harder to curb stomp a kid’s head if you know you’ll see his mother at the grocery store. It’s a lot harder to force a woman to blow you at a traffic stop if she’s in a book club with your wife.

If your profession requires you to have a secret lair, you’re probably a villain.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

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Why is there not more transparency? It makes zero sense. What is going to stop something like this occuring again? Officers going to jail?

The history of the early 20th "progressive" movement was a legacy of legal devices which make the police basically outside the control of local political institutions. Police are civil servants like health inspectors or zoning experts. These changes were made to prevent the previous situation, where a "political machine" could control a town, appoint their people to the important posts and create a town-wide corrupti…

The Feds could do something.

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Really Baltimore's not as bad as the Wire, the riots and this story.

As with any city it's best you avoid certain crime ridden areas, but other then that it's great! The low cost of living in the surrounding counties and Govt IT jobs where salary ranges from 120 to 250k are fairly plentiful. Also, traffic isnt too bad, there is a tech scene, a startup scene and good amount to do in and outside of the city.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

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Adding to this common problem in larger metropolitan police forces in the US is their rapid militarization. Shaking down kids while cruising around in a black and white is one thing. Being equipped with military gear including armored cars opens up a whole new level of control issues. http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-the-rook-armored-cater...

I don't think corruption has much to do with "militarization". It doesn't take a tank to plant evidence and steal money. Also, much of the equipment that people point to as evidence of "militarization" is either generic equipment that has valid police use (e.g. armored trucks. Brinks security, for example, uses them for their secure transport services), or is not military equipment at all. Riot shields, gas masks, an…

I don't think corruption has much to do with "militarization"

Not the corruption of individual cops on the street, but I bet there are some kickbacks given for purchase of heavy equipment. Don't want to get political about it but tear gas is pretty aggressive, and is ironically banned for use on the battlefield but it's considered totally normal for police to use it to control civilian populations.

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I don't think corruption has much to do with "militarization". It doesn't take a tank to plant evidence and steal money. Also, much of the equipment that people point to as evidence of "militarization" is either generic equipment that has valid police use (e.g. armored trucks. Brinks security, for example, uses them for their secure transport services), or is not military equipment at all. Riot shields, gas masks, an…

I don't think corruption has much to do with "militarization" Not the corruption of individual cops on the street, but I bet there are some kickbacks given for purchase of heavy equipment. Don't want to get political about it but tear gas is pretty aggressive, and is ironically banned for use on the battlefield but it's considered totally normal for police to use it to control civilian populations.

Much of the militarization is the DoD giving the stuff away to police departments. Baltimore PD can't afford to buy MRAPs.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

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Really Baltimore's not as bad as the Wire, the riots and this story. As with any city it's best you avoid certain crime ridden areas, but other then that it's great! The low cost of living in the surrounding counties and Govt IT jobs where salary ranges from 120 to 250k are fairly plentiful. Also, traffic isnt too bad, there is a tech scene, a startup scene and good amount to do in and outside of the city.

How can you avoid places like that if your mom or dad can only afford places there ?
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