Show HN: Cross-platform desktop applications with PyQT
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#3Not directly related to the initiative itself, but comparing and contrasting the Electron website vs. PyQT is striking:
https://riverbankcomputing.com/software/pyqt/intro
I've been a (proud) Pythonist for years now, and I've always been a bit chagrined by the quality of the "marketing" of Python projects. It doesn't at all reflect the quality of the community and the projects.
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#4The main problem with "other toolkits" vs Electron apps is that they are not as simple to use in order to create a very good looking UIs. Compare how easy it is to use HTML and CSS in order to create a very complex UIs with all sort of effects vs how utterly complicated is to override, let's say, Qt's ::paint() method in order to achieve rich text inside a label. Let me repeat it. Rich text inside a label. Such a simple thing...
Re: Show HN: Cross-platform desktop applications with PyQT
#5The main problem with "other toolkits" vs Electron apps is that they are not as simple to use in order to create a very good looking UIs. Compare how easy it is to use HTML and CSS in order to create a very complex UIs with all sort of effects vs how utterly complicated is to override, let's say, Qt's ::paint() method in order to achieve rich text inside a label. Let me repeat it. Rich text inside a label. Such a sim…
The other issue is that a lot of these sorts of applications like Slack started life as a web app. In that case, your options are use Electron or build a new desktop application from the ground up.
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#6QT is amazing, it has been around so long and there even is a photoshop to qml exporter [1] that helped us make this dashboard for my Universitys formula hybrid team in [2] [3]. It really did not take too long and the performance is amazing on the Pi. I highly recommend QT, and there are amazing bindings for languages. I am looking forward to trying this out!
[1] https://github.com/qt-labs/photoshop-qmlexporter [2] https://drive.google.com/open?id=1D733SdbUvGsGvct8jdGqJ3R9iJ... [3] https://github.com/UVicFH/infotainment
Re: Show HN: Cross-platform desktop applications with PyQT
#7The main problem with "other toolkits" vs Electron apps is that they are not as simple to use in order to create a very good looking UIs. Compare how easy it is to use HTML and CSS in order to create a very complex UIs with all sort of effects vs how utterly complicated is to override, let's say, Qt's ::paint() method in order to achieve rich text inside a label. Let me repeat it. Rich text inside a label. Such a sim…
I agree that HTML/CSS is easier to use, though maybe some of that is just because everybody has been using them for years. However, you certainly don't have to override ::paint() to get rich text inside a label. You can use a simple subset of HTML in your QLabel to get various text effects.
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#8The main problem with "other toolkits" vs Electron apps is that they are not as simple to use in order to create a very good looking UIs. Compare how easy it is to use HTML and CSS in order to create a very complex UIs with all sort of effects vs how utterly complicated is to override, let's say, Qt's ::paint() method in order to achieve rich text inside a label. Let me repeat it. Rich text inside a label. Such a sim…
If it is so trivial, what is the big deal with "Single Page Applications"? Seems like plenty of pain there in the HTML and CSS world..
Meanwhile, there have never been anything but Single Page Applications in the native world.
And sure, Qt is now more than 20 years old, it's from a time strongly rooted in "widget" based UI systems that have somewhat fallen out of favor. That is what QML is for, which similarly to WPF that started this trend, allows for GPU accelerated vector composition of anything you could ever want, with sane provided defaults so not every project is reinventing grids.
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#9Browsers should just provide controlled access to the operating system file system which will remove some large percentage of the use cases for Electron. It would be easier and much safer.
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#10The main problem with "other toolkits" vs Electron apps is that they are not as simple to use in order to create a very good looking UIs. Compare how easy it is to use HTML and CSS in order to create a very complex UIs with all sort of effects vs how utterly complicated is to override, let's say, Qt's ::paint() method in order to achieve rich text inside a label. Let me repeat it. Rich text inside a label. Such a sim…
Are you aware of QML, which is part of the Qt framework? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QML